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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    give it a week or 2, this is the period when everyones concentrating hard like they were when they got their licence, it'll be a week or 2 before everyone switches back to cruise control I reckon.
    I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    So on Campbell Live tonight a motorcycle was watiing to turn right into a side street but was giving way to stream of cars turning left.

    The truck turning right out of the street went, and the reporter said they were in the wrong because it didn't give way to the bike, even though the bike couldn't turn due to all the cars he was giving way to.

    Either she's useless and should learn about what she's reporting on before making judgement, or I have got this wrong. Any one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    So on Campbell Live tonight a motorcycle was watiing to turn right into a side street but was giving way to stream of cars turning left.

    The truck turning right out of the street went, and the reporter said they were in the wrong because it didn't give way to the bike, even though the bike couldn't turn due to all the cars he was giving way to.

    Either she's useless and should learn about what she's reporting on before making judgement, or I have got this wrong. Any one?
    I saw that and wondered the same thing. I also wonder what the technically correct answer is. I would do the same thing if I was driving the truck, if I was the motorcyclist it wouldnt worry me that the truck did it.

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    I reckon that the reporter was wrong.

    Went for my full licence today (which I passed!!) and I think that the examiner took me through every intersection in town. Maan if I didn't know the new rules before I sure as hell know them now.
    Probably a good time to do it as everyone was cautious and the eye contact - sheit it was everywhere. Reckon in a couple of weeks when all get lax it could be completely different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    So on Campbell Live tonight a motorcycle was watiing to turn right into a side street but was giving way to stream of cars turning left.

    The truck turning right out of the street went, and the reporter said they were in the wrong because it didn't give way to the bike, even though the bike couldn't turn due to all the cars he was giving way to.

    Either she's useless and should learn about what she's reporting on before making judgement, or I have got this wrong. Any one?
    you gots it wrong, unlike the old rule where the left turner got advantage by having someone going straight through blocking the right turner. The same isn't true with the new law, both vehicles are legally stuck until the right turner finally gets a gap, which at some intersections could be 1 long wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    So on Campbell Live tonight a motorcycle was watiing to turn right into a side street but was giving way to stream of cars turning left.

    The truck turning right out of the street went, and the reporter said they were in the wrong because it didn't give way to the bike, even though the bike couldn't turn due to all the cars he was giving way to.

    Either she's useless and should learn about what she's reporting on before making judgement, or I have got this wrong. Any one?
    You got it wrong. The truck could turn right because all the cars were turning left. The bike couldn't turn right because he had to give way to the cars turning left.

    Just as in previous times, a left turning vehicle (opposite a right turning car) could turn left because the right turning car had to give way to straight thru traffic.

    All clear now ???
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    If the bike can't turn into the street then the truck doesn't have to give way to it. I say you two are wrong, as is the reporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    If the bike can't turn into the street then the truck doesn't have to give way to it. I say you two are wrong, as is the reporter.
    Law says I'm right. Whether a cop will think the same is another issue, but as far as the law stands that truck is legally required to sit & wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Law says I'm right. Whether a cop will think the same is another issue, but as far as the law stands that truck is legally required to sit & wait
    Based on your interpretation or actual law? If the latter can you reference (seriously, not being a c****)

    My interpretation is you give way to the person turning into the street. The biker wasn't turning.

    I've just tried googling for the actual legal description of the law but can only find glossy pamphlets. Which like the road code aren't a legal document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    If the bike can't turn into the street then the truck doesn't have to give way to it. I say you two are wrong, as is the reporter.
    You were correct ... the reporter was not. I just like to tell you ... you are wrong ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Based on your interpretation or actual law? If the latter can you reference (seriously, not being a c****)

    My interpretation is you give way to the person turning into the street. The biker wasn't turning.

    I've just tried googling for the actual legal description of the law but can only find glossy pamphlets. Which like the road code aren't a legal document.
    Here we go, took a bit of searching but I found it, it's not up in legislation form at the moment (still rocking the old legislation) only in amendment form

    Quote Originally Posted by Road user amendment 10(4)
    A driver on a terminating road who is approaching or crossing a T-intersection must give way to a vehicle on the continuing road, including a vehicle turning or about to turn right into the terminating road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    You were correct ... the reporter was not. I just like to tell you ... you are wrong ....
    no you were just wrong on both accounts see above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Here we go, took a bit of searching but I found it, it's not up in legislation form at the moment (still rocking the old legislation) only in amendment form
    Still interpretation I reckon, he wasn't about to turn because there were 5 cars he had to give way to.....

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    You were correct ... the reporter was not. I just like to tell you ... you are wrong ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Still interpretation I reckon, he wasn't about to turn because there were 5 cars he had to give way to.....
    Law is all about interpretation, keeps the lawyers paid.
    But you can be about to do something for quite some while (years in some peoples cases), you'd have to argue that altho he was waiting to turn right he wasn't "about" to turn right for quite some while. I don't like your chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Law is all about interpretation, keeps the lawyers paid.
    But you can be about to do something for quite some while (years in some peoples cases), you'd have to argue that altho he was waiting to turn right he wasn't "about" to turn right for quite some while. I don't like your chances.
    I see what you mean, and it's probably one of those ones that if the bike decieded to turn you'd be in the wrong.

    But to say the truck wasn't allowed to turn is taking it too far IMHO.

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