Sad P addicts and thier dealers

**Big Dave** · 26th July 2005, 13:12

Originally Posted by placidfemme

I guess I should just let it be and see what happens in the future...

Nothing good. If you care you could say something. Get some of the publicised medical facts about it and confront them with it.

**mikey** · 26th July 2005, 13:19

Originally Posted by Big Dave

If you care you could say something. Get some of the publicised medical facts about it and confront them with it.

ill assume you havnt tried to reason with someone craving... they wont listen. if you cant handle something like that mrs placidfemme, just fuck off, leave em to it. what people do in there own backyard , roof (WINJA), lounge is up to them. whether it is legal or ethical.

**Big Dave** · 26th July 2005, 13:25

Originally Posted by mikey

ill assume you havnt tried to reason with someone craving... they wont listen. if you cant handle something like that mrs placidfemme, just fuck off, leave em to it. what people do in there own backyard , roof (WINJA), lounge is up to them. whether it is legal or ethical.

Yeah - I have. Twice. One didn't do much good, he died, one did maybe start the process of snapping out of it.
I did qualify by saying 'if you care'. Otherwise I kind of agree with you - until they rob me or my family to pay for their habbit .

**scooterboynz** · 26th July 2005, 13:26

i had a good mate , got into smoking it , then got in with some dealers , then got busted with several bags of the stuff plus all the manufacturing gear at his house , he now has lost his job , most of his friends , his house and shortly his freedom , nothing good comes from that shit! end of story!

**750Y** · 26th July 2005, 13:33

P gives, but it also takes away...

**placidfemme** · 26th July 2005, 13:36

Originally Posted by mikey

if you cant handle something like that mrs placidfemme, just fuck off, leave em to it. what people do in there own backyard , roof (WINJA), lounge is up to them. whether it is legal or ethical.

Thats Mr. to you

Anyway... I did handle it, I didn't give them any shit about it, just kept quiet and kept to myself. As mentioned as well, Sam and I didn't have any transport home, and being a Sunday night it was well after pay day and therefore didn't have the $50+ to catch a cab home, and even if I did have the funds the nearest ATM would have still been a good 40 minutes walk away, so when I'd had enough I went to bed.

**Wolf** · 26th July 2005, 13:37

Originally Posted by placidfemme

I think the best option concerning myself is to stop socialising with him... which is a shame because he is/was seriously one my best friends

I guess I should just let it be and see what happens in the future...

Years ago I tracked down a girl who was good friend of mine at school and found she was into pretty much every drug available at the time - speed, dak, coke, acid - anything that'd give her a buzz - and she had lost her "spark" - her eyes were dead and the only time I saw anything like an animated response from her in the time I was talking to her was when her dealer boyfriend mentioned "speed".

With great sadness I abandonned contact with her and counted her as lost - as lost as our mutual friend who was killed by a drunk driver.

'Tis a pity, she was a good friend and confidante, we once had a lot of trust in each other. After a few years of heavy drug use she was not recogniseable as the same person I knew at school.

She had the audacity to get all shocked that I had taken up smoking cigarettes - ooh no, she doesn't touch those evil things, they're dangerous - pass the acid tabs please...

**Quasievil** · 26th July 2005, 13:38

Sheesh sounds like a horrible story to me, ya cant always pick who comes along to a party, I reckon mate you need some serious distance between these low lifes and yourself, god knows what sought of crapola you could get mixed up in.

Even by way of association you can be fucked over

**skidz** · 26th July 2005, 13:44

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Nothing good. If you care you could say something. Get some of the publicised medical facts about it and confront them with it.

Allready tried that approach on a couple of mates and they listen, but once you go away they just ignote it and carry on. It's just like when the Mormans come to your door and try preaching to you, do you want to know?

**Waylander** · 26th July 2005, 13:46

Originally Posted by placidfemme

I think the best option concerning myself is to stop socialising with him... which is a shame because he is/was seriously one my best friends

I guess I should just let it be and see what happens in the future...

That's what I say. Besides heaps of guys on here are perfectly willing to become your new best male friend.

**placidfemme** · 26th July 2005, 13:48

Originally Posted by skidz

Allready tried that approach on a couple of mates and they listen, but once you go away they just ignote it and carry on. It's just like when the Mormans come to your door and try preaching to you, do you want to know?

This is off topic... lol but I can't help it...

A mormon guy (there were two of them actually) came to our door about 4 years ago on mountain bikes... they knocked on the door, told my mom why they would like to speak to her... she invited them in... 3 hours later they left... and one was a new "re-born" christian... haha go mom!

**Ixion** · 26th July 2005, 13:50

Originally Posted by placidfemme

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I don't have an issue with all drugs... Alcohol (a drug in my eyes) is fine, marijuana is fine too. But all other drugs... are a HUGE no no in my books...

I wrote a long long post about this, but I've just deleted it. Other people have said it all.

FWIW, I agree Mr Giradin and Mr Hitcher. Both. Meaning, that the only effective way to control abuse of anything (alcohol, tobacco, P, heroin, whatever), is societal pressure. If everybody you know thinks that using X makes you a total loser dork and a social outcast, it's very unlikely you'll use it.

The prevalence of P and such like indicates that it's use is accepted by society.

And if society accepts use of X, laws banning it won't work. That's why prohibition failed. So best, as Mr Lou Giradin says, to legalise it and control it.

If society as a whole is willing to reject use of X , then outlaw it.

I fear that for the moment the use of P is not going to be stopped by laws. As you've seen, quite "ordinary", "nice" people apparently see nothing wrong in using it. Until that attitude changes (and every time someone "turns a blind eye" to its use, they reinforce the "It's OK" value), it'll be with us.

Disclosure of interest: Drink alcohol, don't smoke anything (mainly cos I tried and it did nothing for me). Never tried anything else never will. I'm with Sam, I'd have left the party immediately the P came out and explained why. That's my personal line in the sand. I'm an old nana.

**750Y** · 26th July 2005, 13:55

Originally Posted by placidfemme

As mentioned as well, Sam and I didn't have any transport home, and being a Sunday night it was well after pay day and therefore didn't have the $50+ to catch a cab home, and even if I did have the funds the nearest ATM would have still been a good 40 minutes walk away, so when I'd had enough I went to bed.

MATE! NEXT TIME YOU FUCKEN RING ONE OF US & WE'LL COME AND GRAB YA, NO QUESTIONS.

**placidfemme** · 26th July 2005, 13:58

Originally Posted by Ixion

Disclosure of interest: Drink alcohol, don't smoke anything (mainly cos I tried and it did nothing for me). Never tried anything else never will. I'm with Sam, I'd have left the party immediately the P came out and explained why. That's my personal line in the sand. I'm an old nana.

Yeah, I agreed with Sam on the leaving thing... but as mentioned catching a cab wasn't an option so we left in the sense that we went to bed... this friend of mine lives out past Albany, near Riverhead, I'm not sure how the buses work out there, but the closest road where I knew there was a bus stop is State Highway 16 (or 17) that runs up past Albany Village... and thats a good 40 minute walk in the cold and dark... and drizzle... at about 1am Monday morning... not the best decision...