LAMS approved bikes

[GrayWolf]

WTF?? Post 1975 RD350's are banned, but the RD400 is acceptable?? The LC was only very slightly quicker than the 400E/F/G's.

[tigertim20]

fantastic, we have bitched for years about the lack of variety available to learners, and now the list has been available for how many days, and we are bitching about the omissions already?

fuck, its a big step forward from 'you must ride 250s'.
plenty of bikes on that list to pick from

[Ocean1]

plenty of bikes on that list to pick from

Including KTM's 525 EXC, and a couple similar.

Wonder what contortions the formula underwent to slide those in there...

[FJRider]

WTF?? Post 1975 RD350's are banned, but the RD400 is acceptable?? The LC was only very slightly quicker than the 400E/F/G's.

You were expecting logic in the list ... ???

[GrayWolf]

You were expecting logic in the list ... ???

no I suppose I should have expected that, but as thr RD400 is off the Auusie list I was hoping NZ would follow suit... I dont want to think of the spotty faced urchins who buy sprot 250's being let loose on THE classic hoon's machine

[Ender EnZed]

no I suppose I should have expected that, but as thr RD400 is off the Auusie list I was hoping NZ would follow suit... I dont want to think of the spotty faced urchins who buy sprot 250's being let loose on THE classic hoon's machine

There's no chance of that anyway though. There aren't any to buy.

[Ollie.T]

Is there something special and restricted about a GSX-R600U?

Cos a GSXR is not really my idea of a ideal learners bike...

[Asher]

Is there something special and restricted about a GSX-R600U?

Cos a GSXR is not really my idea of a ideal learners bike...

Only 25kw

[Ender EnZed]

Is there something special and restricted about a GSX-R600U?

Yes.

The U means it's restricted.

[Asher]

Yes.

The U means it's restricted.

Apparently it just runs off a second map, snip a wire in the ecu and it goes back to the 100 odd hp map.

[biker baz]

Come 1 july those wonderful chaps & chapesses at ACC will announce that LAMS approved bikes, which in ltsa's own words are safer to ride, will pay the current 250cc-600cc levy or less Furthermore the repentant criminals that they are...not, will revamp the cc rating structure of acc levys to fairly reflect the new power to weight ratio rules.
Imagine that possums a 650cc single owner on the list will pay $300 +/- less every year. That is one front tyre or 60 $5 beers. Imagine too the outrage among 100,000 bikers who vote if this does not happen.
I feel another bikeoi coming on.

[FJRider]

Come 1 july those wonderful chaps & chapesses at ACC will announce that LAMS approved bikes, which in ltsa's own words are safer to ride, will pay the current 250cc-600cc levy or less Furthermore the repentant criminals that they are...not, will revamp the cc rating structure of acc levys to fairly reflect the new power to weight ratio rules.
Imagine that possums a 650cc single owner on the list will pay $300 +/- less every year. That is one front tyre or 60 $5 beers. Imagine too the outrage among 100,000 bikers who vote if this does not happen.
I feel another bikeoi coming on.

So the bikes of choice in the new rules will be under 600cc. Big deal. Those that choose to go to the larger bike will know they have to pay more. As riders do now .... What makes learners so special to get more rules changed ... just for them ??? Learner riders are being given a far greater range of bikes available than they have ever had for a long long time. Nobody will be forcing them to get an over 600cc machine. It is entirely up to the new (potential) owners what they buy from "The list".

"Revamp" is not necessairly a reduction in the fee's ...

[Asher]

So the bikes of choice in the new rules will be under 600cc. Big deal. Those that choose to go to the larger bike will know they have to pay more. As riders do now .... What makes learners so special to get more rules changed ... just for them ??? Learner riders are being given a far greater range of bikes available than they have ever had for a long long time. Nobody will be forcing them to get an over 600cc machine. It is entirely up to the new (potential) owners what they buy from "The list".

Maybe they will make it more expensive to register scooters, moped and 250cc bikes to properly reflect there higher risk

[Skiwi]

To those that a moaning about the list....am I missing something?

When you boil it down I read this to mean that learners will have a greater choice of bikes, where's the down side to that?

[FJRider]

Maybe they will make it more expensive to register scooters, moped and 250cc bikes to properly reflect there higher risk

I think there are a few more people ... that are more at risk than scooter riders. Learner riders on a 600cc+ machines for a start. The rego cost will only be part of the new costing to be taken into account. Insurance premiums for the larger allowed bikes for an L plate rider ... will be beyond the ability of some to afford. (Its difficult now for some) Especially under 25's ...

For the initial learning stage for beginner motorcyclists ... the 250 or under will still be a more sensible choice. The move up to restricted may be the time they start looking at the larger (longer term) bikes. In my opinion ... such initial learner bikes wont be kept for as long a period as is usual under current legislation. As such ... I can't see the new bike (250 and under) sales rate improving after October.

And ... I can't see a reduction in (reported) accidents in the learner/restricted class anytime soon after the new rules kick in. If an increase in such does happen ... the powers that be may see it as justification for the levy increases.