250cc law change?

[Coyote]

I keep hearing that the 250cc law might change. We phoned up the ltsa and the guy on the phone said they want to change the law but need it to go through the government. Does anyone know anything more?

[Posh Tourer :P]

change the law how?

[Yamahamaman]

change the law how?

Probably want to drop the CC rating to

[Warren]

Well there are not many 250cc models being produced around the world and sold in NZ. at the moment there is the Suzuki GN250, GSX250 and ?did i miss one?

Honda.co.uk has 9 different 125cc models being sold new, some and that is only honda.

in 5 years time what will the market for learners bikes be if we kept the 250cc rule?

[Warren]

If they did change it down to 125cc like the UK, would that mean my 150cc FXR is off limits until I get my restricted and then 9 months later get my full license?

[Moffy]

I always find it interesting that our legislaters are so concerned about the health ans well being of learner motor cyclists that they restrict them to 250cc until they are considered competent enough to graduate to something bigger. At the same time we allow pimply faced youths to drive Evo's and WRX and all manner of other 4 wheeled rocket ships while on their restricted licences.

We have just bought a 1987 1.3 litre Laser for the kids to learn in. Once they have learnt to control that then they can graduate to something more to their liking.

[Two Smoker]

I doubt very much that it would be lowered, but rather rasie the cc rating...... I think this is a stupid idea if it involves a lerners licence..... Learners should be restricted to 250cc, and possibly raise the cc bar too 400cc..... Because in theory you can do your learner and restricted and then jump onto a 1000cc rocket as soon as you get your full (fucking stupid if you ask me) it should be more gradual, 250cc and under for Learners, and 400cc and under for restricted riders.... therefore the rider gets used to playing with a bit of power before jumping onto a 600+cc bike.....

[bevsta]

Don't some countries work on a horse power rating? When I was first getting my licence I heard a few learned bikers raving on about how a much better way would be to limit the horse power to put less experienced riders on a bike but now allow them the power of 250cc to go kill themselves. Cos you can still get up to the same massive speeds on some of the modern 250s. I don't know the truth of it. What do you guys think about that?

[Posh Tourer :P]

Kinda invisible if ya just take out the restricting washer in the exhaust....

But I suppose it'd work, seeing as it has elsewhere.....

[FROSTY:Me]

Yea i agree that a learner rider should be restricted by Horsepower not cc
that would make a few of the pocket rocket 250's unavailable but mean that sedate 500's like the gs500 or perhaps the gpz500 are available.
It would also be better for um er "larger" people.

[magnum]

mmmmmmmmm,i think the m/c industry in nz is to small to survive too much legislation and enforcement will always cost big $$$$ no matter how well intensioned
prob best to leave as is i think.

[Coyote]

change the law how?

That's what I wanted to know. All I hear is it's going to be changed but what to I haven't heard.

[Two Smoker]

The HP idea is a good one, but it would cost alot of money...... and you would get idiots like me that would buy the restriction and not put it in.....

[Coyote]

A prime example why the 250 rule is so stupid is the Aprilia RS250. Very nice bike but very powerful. I could just see a kid who has just turned 15, knows nothing about bikes but wants one to look cool, getting their licence and then getting their rich banker/property developer/pilot father to buy them a RS250, and getting themselves killed.

[Two Smoker]

A prime example why the 250 rule is so stupid is the Aprilia RS250. Very nice bike but very powerful. I could just see a kid who has just turned 15, knows nothing about bikes but wants one to look cool, getting their licence and then getting their rich banker/property developer/pilot father to buy them a RS250, and getting themselves killed.

Yep, but you can look at it the other way too...... Have gone through the process and are ready for something a bit bigger on your restricted, then you can get a 250 2-stroke (with the perfromance of a 400......)