Ok who would run

[marty]

9 times out of 10 you're well snapped by the time you see the patrol car - he's slowed ready to u-turn right behind you, and get your plate as you go past. wouldn't it be hilarious to do a runner at karapiro, get away with it, have a great big laugh in your helmet, then get a visit from the highway cop later that day, and he takes your licence off you.....

or even funnier, your bike plate gets loaded into the computer, you're going on your south island road trip, and you get stopped in omarama, and your licence gets taken from you for an offence you committed in the waikato!!!

laugh!!!

[Motu]

Just got a speeding ticket today - first one on a bike in...um....we could be talking decades here.Run - doubt it...knobby tyres on a wet road,400cc of nothing.

Coming home today I thought I might just go for a detour out to Swanson and come back along the Scenic Drive,need to test out the Alpine ear plugs and Camelback that Santa left,also wanted to see how the Kenda knobs do in the wet.Went through the roundabout on West Coast rd and Forrest Hill rd....blat,blat....oops,she runs away a bit,then go along Henderson Valley rd,doing just under 70kph,in the mirror I can see a late model silver car,he's hanging back just far enough that I can't get a fix on make and year...but I'm watchin him.But it's OK,it's a 70kph limit along here....isn't it?....um...well...oh yeah there's the 70kph sign there...or is that the first one? A glance in the mirror and I see the lights come on.SHIT!!! - oh,isn't hindsight a wonderfull thing....if you knew he was a cop dickhead,why,oh why didn't ya slow down?

He said I was doing 80kph down the hill,gotta agree with him on that one,but he books me for 68...that's $120 it's the dog house for me boys

I've been caught before with these 70kph rural or outskirt limits,it's kinda hard to remember where thay are,when they start and stop.Like,turn a corner and do 70,turn a corner now you do 50.Some small towns have a 70 or 80 outskirts limit,some just go to 50,little traps for the unwary.Worst part is I know this road well - and that's just why it happens eh?

[Jackrat]

Dang,Sorry to hear it.

[Coldkiwi]

yeah... maybe a dry road I knew, preheated tyres, little warning for piggy, my detector blaring so I knew he'd stung me and no chance for him to u-turn immediately (thinking twisty sections of kopu here) and it would be an option. if I was over the limit by 40+kph it would be a reasonable option... or at least give me a choice to try the 'didn't see your lights' excuse initially if he drives quick enough.
course... then there's the problem of his mates... feck it... it really doesn't get any easier does it?

[mangell6]

Did you look at the speed on his machine???

The worst 50-70-100 area (IMO) is heading south on SH2 out of Waipukurau (Hawkes Bay) It last for hours, at least it seems like hours.

[wkid_one]

Did you look at the speed on his machine???

The worst 50-70-100 area (IMO) is heading south on SH2 out of Waipukurau (Hawkes Bay) It last for hours, at least it seems like hours.

Bloody hell - do I agree with that or what......it takes longer to drive than to watch the end of LOTR3 (and that is a hellishly long time)

[Racey Rider]

I got done today by a muffty car. 73 in a 50 zone. $170. 35 demert points. And a "I should have done a runner" feeling after it all!
Was just heading down to get a Wof for the Rg150, running late, happened to check my mirrors, to see flashing lights 400m behind me. First thought was,, thats probabley for me, pull over and wait.
Cop was nice enough. Too the point. "Have a nice day Officer!".
But can't help thinking, problely would have got away if I'ld just kepted going. Roads were dry, not much traffic, lots of windy/mazey road options in front of me. I'm sure he wouldn't have got my plate number.

O well,,, The ups and downs of road riding.
Will go and read that other thread about why we shouldn't do runners again!

[sAsLEX]

What make/colour etc?? it wasn't the new silver VY that has been trolling around NP was it??

[angle]

I kind of ran once. I was coming back to Auckland and just finished overtaking a line of cars (because of that my speed was at 190km/h), a couple of seconds after the overtake a police car drove past in the opposite direction. As soon as they saw me the lights went on, thankfully they could not make a sharp u-turn because of the cars following me, which gave me some time to reach the first turn onto a rural road. After turning away from the main road, I pulled over the bike so that it could not be seen, waited a couple of minutes and then took the backroads home.

Police took a great liking of undercover cars of late. Somehow I always feel uneasy when there are new generation Fords and Holdens around. Especially after seeing one with hidden flashing lights in the grill in the rear mirror while speeding, that time it thankfully just overtook me, probably in a hurry to attend something serious.


P.S. The mirrors on the RG are horrible, all I see in them are my elbows.

[BlueR1]

If zapped doing over 150kms id run if under 150 id stop, if your doing 150 plus its not worth stopping, I have done several runners in the past including a police motorbike, although I am a firm believer that you are better keeping a low profile and avoiding confrontations! Save the speeding to the back roads where you are less likely to get ya self in these situations

[sAsLEX]

Haven't they changed max velocity to +40 before 28 days etc. ??

[BlueR1]

9 times out of 10 you're well snapped by the time you see the patrol car - he's slowed ready to u-turn right behind you, and get your plate as you go past. wouldn't it be hilarious to do a runner at karapiro, get away with it, have a great big laugh in your helmet, then get a visit from the highway cop later that day, and he takes your licence off you.....

or even funnier, your bike plate gets loaded into the computer, you're going on your south island road trip, and you get stopped in omarama, and your licence gets taken from you for an offence you committed in the waikato!!!

laugh!!!

Umm cant happen, to take your licence off you, you have to be caught doing the offence, otherwise they have no proof that it was you on the bike at the time to offence was committed. The worst that can happen if your number plate is recorded by the cops is you will get a visit and be asked who was riding the bike, if you dont tell them you get charged with witholding information, in the case that im aware of this cost the rider $1000, but he kept his licence..... Still a better outcome than if he had stopped ie he would have ended up with no licence and a $1000 fine....

[Kwaka-Kid]

Umm cant happen, to take your licence off you, you have to be caught doing the offence, otherwise they have no proof that it was you on the bike at the time to offence was committed. The worst that can happen if your number plate is recorded by the cops is you will get a visit and be asked who was riding the bike, if you dont tell them you get charged with witholding information, in the case that im aware of this cost the rider $1000, but he kept his licence..... Still a better outcome than if he had stopped ie he would have ended up with no licence and a $1000 fine....

Umm legally CAN and DOES happen my friend.

[BlueR1]

Umm legally CAN and DOES happen my friend.

It dosent, not unless you admit you were riding the bike, otherwise it cant stand up in court I know this as not only have I seen it happen I have also heard it from the horse's mouth ie a cop. If all they get is your number plate they will pressure you to admit that it was you riding the bike if you don't and you wont tell them who was riding they can charge you with witholding information, no more no less and witholding information is not a loss of licence offence.

[spudchucka]

It dosent, not unless you admit you were riding the bike, otherwise it cant stand up in court I know this as not only have I seen it happen I have also heard it from the horse's mouth ie a cop. If all they get is your number plate they will pressure you to admit that it was you riding the bike if you don't and you wont tell them who was riding they can charge you with witholding information, no more no less and witholding information is not a loss of licence offence.

Could be taken to Court but would need supporting evidence as to who was riding / driving, (independant witness). In the case of a car this can be easier as the drivers face is visible.

Withholding information could cost you $10000, which is the maximum penalty for this offence. Its very unlikely that any Judge would fine anyone that amount but the legislation allows it.

Check out Section 118(1)&(2) and Section 118(4) of the Land Transport Act 1998. The penalty provisions are found in Section 118(1)(c).

Basically it means that police can "Require" any owner or hirer of a vehicle to give within 14 days any available information concerning the identity of the driver, (if the driver is alleged to have committed any offence against any act)

Its interesting that this applies where offences are committed against any act, not just the land transport act. In effect it could apply to the owner of a vehicle seen to drop litter.

Section 118(4) relates to the owner of any vehicle used to flee a police pursuit. In these cases the owner is required to give the information immediately.