Ok who would run

[Jackrat]

You just give five probable names an sit back to watch the circus.
I mean to say any of my mates can ride my bike anytime they like,So it could of been any of them,And BTW I was at my mums place all day that day,just
ask her

[marty]

Umm cant happen, to take your licence off you, you have to be caught doing the offence, otherwise they have no proof that it was you on the bike at the time to offence was committed. The worst that can happen if your number plate is recorded by the cops is you will get a visit and be asked who was riding the bike, if you dont tell them you get charged with witholding information, in the case that im aware of this cost the rider $1000, but he kept his licence..... Still a better outcome than if he had stopped ie he would have ended up with no licence and a $1000 fine....

i'm gonna disagree here. a simple line of questioning by the omarama cop, with your admission that no-one else was riding your bike at karapiro 36 hours earlier (and believe me people will admit it was them) will have your licence taken on the roadside - how do you think camera tickets over 150km/h are processed? a simple 'duh - i dunno' will not suffice, and the max fine for failing to provide details has gone from $1000 to $10 000, and disqualification is always an option........

[Kwaka-Kid]

fully agree with you marty... BlueR1 we must have different horses because mine sings the tune of they all still get done in court...

[Lou Girardin]

Once you give the information about the driver your obligations are done with. The cops have to find and charge him. They can't have two bites at the cherry.
Lou

[Marmoot]

Just thinking,

If you get the $1000 speeding fine and loss of license, doesn't that mean Traffic Infringement?

And if you get the Witholding Information, doesn't that mean Criminal Offence?

Which one is better in the long run (i.e., job hunting, etc) anyway?

[k14]

I think they are both the same. Although someone did tell me that traffic convictions get deleted after 3 years, but i am not sure if this is true.

I would have thought everyone would have learnt their lessons by now that if you do a runner you die!!! No matter how short the chase is you die. Or worse, you kill one of your mates or some innocent man walking his dog. Then you have 7-10 years of being some gang members bitch.

Just think. I bet everyone's opinion on this would change if one of their huband/wife/kid/mum/dad was killed by an idiot doing a runner to save themselve a $400 traffic ticket. But instead it ended up with 3 people dead and someone (like you or your mate) doing 10 years in prison!!

I think everyone here needs to treat riding with a bit of maturity. Sure i disagree with the way the roads are policed at the moment. But doing a runner isnt the way to rebel against it.

Hey, here's a thought, even though some of you might think i need to get psychiatric care for it. Dont even do anything to get pulled over for in the first place.

Just think about all the conquences and the worst case scenario.

I am writing this from a first hand experience of what can go wrong when you decide to do a runner. I hope everyone on here wont make the same mistake i did.

[marty]

I think they are both the same. Although someone did tell me that traffic convictions get deleted after 3 years, but i am not sure if this is true.

any court appearance, other than defending an infringment ticket, results in your history being added to your rap sheet. minor traffic history (speeding, failing to give way etc) has to be searched separatley.

no history drops off - even after 25 years - parliament has not yet passed the law to have that done.

[wkid_one]

PS - Following on from Martys post - apparently Insurance Companies have access to this also

[k14]

Nope, there is no way for them to find out about your traffic convictions/speeding tickets apart from you telling them.

If they did, then that is against the privacy act (or something like that).

They could have a spy in every court room in teh country and write down all the names of people that get convicted though!!

[wkid_one]

Nope, there is no way for them to find out about your traffic convictions/speeding tickets apart from you telling them.

If they did, then that is against the privacy act (or something like that).

They could have a spy in every court room in teh country and write down all the names of people that get convicted though!!

Check your privacy disclaimer in your insurance schedule before you say that - most have a disclaimer that allows them the latitude to do this in certain events.

[Coldkiwi]

they could however invalidate your claim if it came to light that you had a previous offence you didn't tell them when confirming the policy. Not sure how it would come to light... perhaps a loose mouthed cop if one attended the scene?

[Coldkiwi]

yeah... maybe a dry road I knew, preheated tyres, little warning for piggy, my detector blaring so I knew he'd stung me and no chance for him to u-turn immediately (thinking twisty sections of kopu here) and it would be an option. if I was over the limit by 40+kph it would be a reasonable option... or at least give me a choice to try the 'didn't see your lights' excuse initially if he drives quick enough.
course... then there's the problem of his mates... feck it... it really doesn't get any easier does it?

well, I got to put that in to practice over the holidays. going through a 65kph corner on SH16 with hot tyres, heard the escort bleep, saw the signal die real fast, looked in the mirrors and saw a blue holden I'd just gone past and decided not to dick around given that I had no idea what my speed was but figured it was 120+ (possibly 130+ because I was in a good mood!). Went for it (not death tripping but certainly hustling) reminding myself to relax and not panic and if I saw any lights gaining in the mirror, I'd slow down and plead stupidity. Turns out he didn't even turn round (an admission of the holden being well-outclassed?) but gave BB, Aff-man and john behind me the evil eye when he passed them!

[k14]

Check your privacy disclaimer in your insurance schedule before you say that - most have a disclaimer that allows them the latitude to do this in certain events.

Yeah, but the only way for them to find out is 1.) from you and 2.) from the cops (and it is illegal for them to give out personal details to anyone about anyone). So i think i'll take my chances.

Anyone know how much say "hypothetically" an insurance premium would increase in the case of a traffic conviction or a speeding ticket??

[wkid_one]

Yeah, but the only way for them to find out is 1.) from you and 2.) from the cops (and it is illegal for them to give out personal details to anyone about anyone). So i think i'll take my chances.

Anyone know how much say "hypothetically" an insurance premium would increase in the case of a traffic conviction or a speeding ticket??

Actually not if you have the disclaimer in your records - same thing goes for the Central Crash database. You can condition your way out of the PA by way of having the customer sign

LOL - a couple of things may happen:
1. They will up the price considerably in recognition of your ' increased' risk
2. They may bump the price up so high in an endeavour to make you leave
3. They won't renew your policy.

Many insurers WON'T insure people with speeding tickets if you are deemed in the high risk catagory (18-25-ish, male) or if the ticket is for an excessive speed

Usually they will either load an increased excess ($1000-2000) and/or bump the premium up (often equal to a 0% non-claims level)

You are in a catch 22 tho - you HAVE to disclose this to them at the time it occurs - as if you don't you are deemed to be withholding material information - and in the event of a claim - they can elect not to pay out - this is esp true if you pass an anniversary of taking your insurance out.

Somewhere here may know more about it than me as whilst I worked for an insurance company - I didn't work in the underwriting area.

You can be left high and dry here - as if no-one will insure you - you are in breach of any finance agreements you have on the bike as well as this is conditional on you having cover for the bike!!

Dan

[Jackrat]

Nope, there is no way for them to find out about your traffic convictions/speeding tickets apart from you telling them.

If they did, then that is against the privacy act (or something like that).

They could have a spy in every court room in teh country and write down all the names of people that get convicted though!!

Sorry mate,after having worked in the industry for several years I can tell you from first hand experiance you are so wrong.
Give me your full name and I will tell you more about yourself than you would ever belive possible,in under an hour.
The freedom of information act does not cover what you are talking about,Sorry but your criminal history is public record not private.
All a person needs is to be accredited in any number of fields and you are an open book.Sorry