New Give Way rule at green arrow?

**yungatart** · 31st March 2012, 10:57

Originally Posted by BMWST?

ok here is a an equivalent one.....the traffic turning right from Hutt road can only do so with green arrow,trafic turning left have a "free turn".Who gibves way....

here the google map link if you wanna look from street level
http://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces...=-780&t=h&z=18

Once the vehicle has turned right on to Kaiwharawhara Rd, they are proceeding straight ahead, you are turning left, they are on your right.
You give way. It's easy...

**maggot** · 31st March 2012, 10:57

Okay, I've got one.. What happens when there's no green arrow, but road is clear ahead, so clear to turn right, into a street with two lanes, with cars also turning left into the same street. Do the new give way rules apply when the road being turned into is double laned, so a lane for left turning traffic and a lane for right turning traffic?
http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=symo...28.75,,0,21.56
That one there..

**yungatart** · 31st March 2012, 11:00

Originally Posted by maggot

Okay, I've got one.. What happens when there's no green arrow, but road is clear ahead, so clear to turn right, into a street with two lanes, with cars also turning left into the same street. Do the new give way rules apply when the road being turned into is double laned, so a lane for left turning traffic and a lane for right turning traffic?
http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=symo...28.75,,0,21.56
That one there..

You each turn into the lane closest to you, so nobody gives way, well, that is the theory, be careful doing that in Hawkes Bay though, cos drivers here turn into whatever lane they choose.

**maggot** · 31st March 2012, 11:03

Originally Posted by yungatart

You each turn into the lane closest to you, so nobody gives way, well, that is the theory, be careful doing that in Hawkes Bay though, cos drivers here turn into whatever lane they choose.

Cheers for that answer, I thought I was right, but people seem to be too nervous to do anything remotely close to taking the initiative at Give Way signs.. Infuriating.
This is in Auckland's CBD, so you get plonkers who think they get to pick whichever lane they want, so I always take care through there, even if I'm in the right..

**Virago** · 31st March 2012, 11:04

Originally Posted by slofox

I'd bet that the "free turn" has a give way sign...all the ones round here do anyway.

It appears not, but I suspect that there will be one there very soon...

**slofox** · 31st March 2012, 11:05

Originally Posted by Virago

It appears not, but I suspect that there will be one there very soon...

There should be - "free turns" round here all have the Give Way sign. But then, that one is down souf so anything could be the go there...

**slofox** · 31st March 2012, 11:07

Originally Posted by yungatart

You each turn into the lane closest to you, so nobody gives way, well, that is the theory, be careful doing that in Hawkes Bay though, cos drivers here turn into whatever lane they choose.

+1. Same thing round here - try for your own lane at your peril...

**yungatart** · 31st March 2012, 11:11

Originally Posted by slofox

+1. Same thing round here - try for your own lane at your peril...

I muscle my way in glaring at all who dare to try and cross me! They don't call me scary tart for nuthin', you know. I EARNED that title!

**BMWST?** · 31st March 2012, 11:27

Originally Posted by slofox

I'd bet that the "free turn" has a give way sign...all the ones round here do anyway.

it doesnt have a give way sign

**Virago** · 31st March 2012, 11:41

Originally Posted by BMWST?

it doesnt have a give way sign

Yeah, just an ambiguous dotted line. There will be lots of intersections around the country like that which will require some signage to prevent confusion. In the meantime bikers would be best to ride defensively, as there's always a few nutters out there who will force right-of-way, regardless of consequences.

**Mental Trousers** · 31st March 2012, 11:49

If you're on a bike you should always take care, even if you are in the right. After all, being in the right doesn't make that much difference to the SUV that's sitting on top of you.

Originally Posted by maggot

Cheers for that answer, I thought I was right, but people seem to be too nervous to do anything remotely close to taking the initiative at Give Way signs.. Infuriating.
This is in Auckland's CBD, so you get plonkers who think they get to pick whichever lane they want, so I always take care through there, even if I'm in the right..