How smoky should a 2 stroke be?

[SMOKEU]

I can't see any inspection hole on the carby, and I have removed the cover for the oil pump but I can't see any marks on the pump body to line the pump arm with.

I've adjusted the pump to give a bit more oil at any given throttle position.

[tigertim20]

I can't see any inspection hole on the carby, and I have removed the cover for the oil pump but I can't see any marks on the pump body to line the pump arm with.

I've adjusted the pump to give a bit more oil at any given throttle position.

just make sure you keep checking the plug then to read whats happening.

[dangerous]

just make sure you keep checking the plug then to read whats happening.

only really any good if you do a proper plug chop.

[SMOKEU]

I cleaned the pump arm and casing with a petrol soaked rag, and underneath all the crap there are 2 markings, 1 on the pump arm, and the other on the casing. However, there is no way those 2 markings will line up. I have tried pushing the pump arm by hand all the way from the closed to the fully open position and they don't come anywhere near to lining up. There is no way they can even physically line up without smashing the pump apart.

[pete-blen]

I cleaned the pump arm and casing with a petrol soaked rag, and underneath all the crap there are 2 markings, 1 on the pump arm, and the other on the casing. However, there is no way those 2 markings will line up. I have tried pushing the pump arm by hand all the way from the closed to the fully open position and they don't come anywhere near to lining up. There is no way they can even physically line up without smashing the pump apart.

Just went looking to make sure I gave you the
correct info..... I did...
Check that the arm has been instaled on the pump in the correct postion..
Or if someones had the pump apart & not put it togeather correctly...

Heres the setting info..
http://suzukits.informe.com/wiki/vie...g_and_Setting)

http://www.dansmc.com/2_stroke_oilpump.htm

[SMOKEU]

Heres the setting info..
http://suzukits.informe.com/wiki/vie...g_and_Setting)

http://www.dansmc.com/2_stroke_oilpump.htm

I've already had a look at that link and there is no way that I can see how those markings are going to line up. I've included the links to 2 of the pics I've taken of the pump, the red markings are there to show where the markings are on the pump arm and housing to make them more clear, and was taken with a closed throttle. The pic where part of my hand is visible is where I moved the pump arm to show what happens when the throttle opens. I won't embed the pics here as the mods will get shitty due to them being oversized.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...5/Untitled.png

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...185/IMG081.jpg

[pete-blen]

I've already had a look at that link and there is no way that I can see how those markings are going to line up. I've included the links to 2 of the pics I've taken of the pump, the red markings are there to show where the markings are on the pump arm and housing to make them more clear, and was taken with a closed throttle. The pic where part of my hand is visible is where I moved the pump arm to show what happens when the throttle opens. I won't embed the pics here as the mods will get shitty due to them being oversized.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...5/Untitled.png

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...185/IMG081.jpg

Ok.. Theres something NOT right there...........
Look at the first pic... theres no way the cable should be pulling straight
though length wise on the arm... the arm is in the wrong postion on the shaft.
I would guess the arm needs to be rotated near 90* then reinstaled on the shaft..
Something needs to rotate... wheather its the arm or pump internals ?

Dose the twist grip start of hard then suddenly get easy ?

What year is the TS... looks to be a older one ?

[SMOKEU]

Ok..
Look at the first pic... theres no way the cable should be pulling straight
though length wise on the arm... the arm is in the wrong postion on the shaft.
I would guess the arm needs to be rotated near 90* then reinstaled on the shaft..

What year is the TS... looks to be a older one ?

It's a 1973 model. I still don't see how those markings are meant to line up, even if the pump arm is rotated as much as possible. Just above the red mark on the pump casing the cable goes in and when that cable is pulled, the arm moves in a clockwise direction.

[pete-blen]

In the pic below..
Take note of were the rest point of the arm is with a closed throttle
in relationship to the pump body...
Then have a look were yours is... Your arm is about 30* retarded..
I feel the arm has to come of the pump shaft and be re-postioned..

I can only point out the possable issue... You are the one who is there...
you are the one that has to figger out how to sort it...

[Ixion]

That pumps incorrectly assembled. Check the the drive flat hasn't logged itself out. The align the marks info is correct I've done it hundreds of times on many Suzuki smokers, 50cc to 750cc.

Apropos the original question, modern two stroke oils are specially formulated to be low ash, and smoke very little, vspecially on a little engine. If you want lots of smoke, use ordinary SAE 30 as we did in the old days .