An investigation of motorcycle rider use of and attitudes to high visibility gear

[koba]

2 strikes you resit ! (if you're lucky enough to survive)

I've long said a huge, nasty spike on the steering wheel would be the best safety device possible, better than any number of airbags.

I'm quite serious, do think about it. (Not directed at you sinfull, just a general comment on your point)

[sinfull]

I've long said a huge, nasty spike on the steering wheel would be the best safety device possible, better than any number of airbags.

I'm quite serious, do think about it. (Not directed at you sinfull, just a general comment on your point)

Of course, i agree haha even cackle at the thought !

Know i'd play gentle !

[rustic101]

Done. I'd actually be keen to participate more in this.

[mashman]

You could dip me in that dayglo shit and it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference as to how people don't see me. It's up there with compulsory lights on.

[Jantar]

Survey completed. Then I sent the following email to the researchers

Hi,

I have completed the survey, but unfortunately couldn’t answer as honestly as I would like. The survey is deficient in a few points, some of which are so serious as to make any conclusions from it worthless.

The first one is that it misses a major riding demographic of those aged 50 – 60.

Then the questions make the assumption that Hi Vis gear is safer. Actual results show that per km ridden riders in all black gear have fewer multi vehicle accidents. Research in the UK showed that this is because the human brain perceives black as a threat, and although motorists may not actually recognise the black blob as a motorcycle it is still a threat and they take avoiding action.

The question also asks about the size of a rider’s motorcycle in 3 broad bands. It doesn’t recognise that large capacity (over 600 cc) adventure bikes actually have a lower performance and are considerably safer than mid capacity sports bikes.

The survey also fails to recognise that black riding gear is warmer for the rider than lighter colours, and that it is more practical in many circumstances.

I seriously hope that either a new survey designed by actual riders is forthcoming, or that the research is published with a clear note showing its deficiencies.

Regards

[mashman]

I did the survey. I answered no to participating and clicked next. This took me into the survey Also there's no option for not wanting to wear hi-viz because it's gay and for nice safe Honda riders.

[Nzpure]

95% of Chch drivers are blind valium soaked retards, you could have a flashing light on your head and it will NOT make any difference.

Chritchurch drivers are the worst in NZ on so many levels, and most of you think it is every one else,- riding my road bike in this town is terrifying and drives me to angry paranioa, then I get to spend lots of time in traffic cause of my job.

1- The least ability to look and actually see.
2- The poorest descision making anywhere after having "looked"
3- The slowest and least decisive action taking anywhere, after having made a decision.

And some uni academic wants people to buy into a study on dayglo vests? So the victims of vehicular attack wear stupid bright vests that make no difference, rather than the "justice" system punish, Adequately! the retards that commit the crime, in order that other vehicularly retarded morons recognise possible consequence and maybe, just maybe try to improve ? good grief

LOL soooo true. I grew up in katikati norf island spent heaps of time in hams,toerags and auckland. Drive up to see my folks 2-3 times a year so i been about the place and by far the worst thoughtless, ill just put my lipstick on while i talk on the phone oops i ran a red light and that looks like a bike im about to hit o poo, kinda of drivers are definetly here in chch!
FYI She missed becuase im a ninja gp rider with teh mad skills and i dodged her! roflmao.

[Nzpure]

I don't wear hi viz and nor do i get knocked off !

Smidsy ? Yeah sure if you insist, they are out there ! But no more then there were 30 years ago !

I say what katman says, open your fucking eyes ppl !!!! There are hazzards out there at every bend, side street, roundabout, driveway, hell, they're even right there on your own bike, the moment you hop on it without taking the time to check the little things like pads, tyre pressures, head bearings, shall i go on ? And no one is looking for them, they blindly bolt off into the sunset going i'm ok jack, if i crash it must be some other cunt's fault !

Jesus, i must be ok cause i don't even (cant even) fit in to this survey lol opps too old or not old enough you choose !

Hi viz be fucked, pin a tail on me and call me a weazel cause i'm a cunning old fox and know that if i get fucked up, it will be me that fucks up !
Not the fact that some other fuck never saw me, for fucks sake the fucker never new i existed till he heard me !

Loud pipes save lives !!!!!!!!!!

As does education ! the new licencing system goes nowhere to help the problem ! With both car or M/C licences !
Full on driving/riding courses are the way to go !
Put that in your survey and smoke it !

HAHA god your a grumpy cunt lol, Hope i get to meet you one day ill buy you a beer!

[Oblivion]

P.E.B.S.W.A.D.S

Problem exists between steering wheel and Drivers seat.

[Conquiztador]

Not interested in doing any surveys re Day Glow gear. Why? Because it is all a waste of time and resources.

I have been riding in black for 45 years. I am 100% responsible for my own safety. If a blind old hag pulls out from the laundromat parking and I smash in to her, colours will not matter. What matters is if I anticipate that she is blind and I have a escape plan.

If I sit at 180k/h and pass all and everything, Day Glow has no meaning. Only thing that will save me is my riding.

To have Day Glow gear on when riding is like having a condom on your dick while playing russian roulette.

[wsm.highvisresearch]

The problem with the age groupings has now been fixed. Thanks again for your feedback.

[Virago]

The problem with the age groupings has now been fixed. Thanks again for your feedback.

That's the minor problem.

The main issue is with the survey bias.

You have presented the irrefutable "fact" that hi-vis is safer, and simply asked motorcyclists to rate their willingness to accept that fact. Any results will be completely meaningless.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Fuck you guys, get with the program. I'm co-operating so I can get a new black leather 8XL racing suit with yellow lightening bolts and flames as my prize.

[scumdog]

Rach and I were driving home in our quite noisey and very bright red Commodore ute the other day.

Some old fucking bat all of a sudden did a quick lane change and near side swipped us.

If only our ute was high vis instead of loud and red it wouldn't have happened.

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The thing is Pete:
If hi-vis stops somebody from pulling out on front of a bike etc it is highly unlikely the potentially offending driver is going to follow you home to say "Wow man, that hi-vis really works, Iwouldn't have noticed you if you hadn't been wearing it"

So measuring its effectiveness is going to be almost impossible.

And people don't notice locomotives approaching them so for some nothing will get their attention, see todays edition of Southland Times and have a squiz at 'Your View' (the letters to the editor bit)

[Voltaire]

Another load of bollocks survey.
IN the end its about driver/rider behaviour not some colourful clothing, give drivers the steering wheel spike for a couple of years.
I use visy on the scootah as its slow and easy for driver target fixation.
The rest of the time on the bikes its black and I pretend ( not hard in Auckand) I'm invisible.
Still I expect our Nanny Govt just make me wear it
Oddly I pass the two places every day where I have had bike crashes....once on diesel and once an old lady going thu a stop sign......