France and Ireland pass hi-viz law

[Scuba_Steve]

If you want to maximize your chance of being seen, buy a red bike, red hemet & wear all red gear.
Humans see red before any other colour

Yellow will also get you seen but has a side-effect, Yellow pisses people off.
So if the morons with no clue force all bikers to wear yellow Hi-vis the only effect it's going to have is pissing off the driving population. Reason is "yellow is an eye irritant." there are claims that "babies cry more in yellow rooms, husbands and wives fight more in yellow kitchens, and "stars" throw more tantrums in yellow dressing rooms. etc"

[mashman]

Is this because people ride in the dark with their lights off?

[Eyegasm]

So how about you tell us how many scoooter riders are claiming ACC for hand related injuries and what it costs us?

I currently have 4 scooter riders on my books with hand injuries costing $2500 a week in weekly compensation alone. Don't want to even think of the doctors and hand therapist bills...

[Conquiztador]

I currently have 4 scooter riders on my books with hand injuries costing $2500 a week in weekly compensation alone. Don't want to even think of the doctors and hand therapist bills...

Made me think... When this gummint is so concerned re bikers safety and happy to regulate for our sake so we do not get hurt, perhaps a law stating that all scooters must have bark busters...

[oneofsix]

Made me think... When this gummint is so concerned re bikers safety and happy to regulate for our sake so we do not get hurt, perhaps a law stating that all scooters must have bark busters...

Funny how all the gummint regulation for our safety is to cost us money, one might suspect they are trying to price motorcycling off the market the same as they are doing for Cigarettes and booze.

[Spazman727]

Someone somewhere thought that 150sq mm hi viz pennants on posty bikes was a good idea.

God forbid they think it's a good idea for us.

The only thing those dumb-ass little flags are good for is hitting you on the back when you go under a tree. And fabric Aus Post used faded to almost white within a few weeks.

I wear Hi-vis at night, sometimes, because I've seen other bikers wearing it and it does increase the light up area a little. But as has been said before, most cordura gear already has reflective piping, as does some leather stuff. My old bike pants had a massive reflective surface on the knees which I though was pretty nifty.
I don't think that Hi-Vis should be made mandatory.

[swbarnett]

Prove...would be a more apt word Stephen...demand has been tried before, with resounding failure.

I see where you're coming from and can see your point. I wish it wasn't so but the realist in me says you're right.

Unfortunately it's a war of numbers. And we simply don't have them. If enough of us (and not just bikers) told the government in no uncertain terms that they have no place in our personal safety we wouldn't have to tug our forelocks and ask permission all the time.