Drz400

[NordieBoy]

You'll be going to AA* meetings next.


*Adventurers Anonymouse.

[Andy67]

You'll be going to AA* meetings next.


*Adventurers Anonymouse.

I like it, I like it a lot.

[Ocean1]

(sigh)

Chain Lube 101: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ho...ube/index.html

It covers the use of waxes (bad), WD40 (bad), kerosene (not so good) and cleaning (not to mention how to actually lube your chain).

Expert advice from a salesman? Jeez you're easy.

Must admit I haven't delved into the latest motorcycle chain lube fetishes for a while. Last time I did I asked an industrial chain manufacturer's technical manager what I should use to lube a sealed chain used in typical NZ dirt conditions. "Officially I don't give a shit" he said, "no manufacturer will claim to recommend their products be used in sand, period, in fact every one I know of has explicit disclaimers in their tech literature to that effect". "Unofficially, I also don't give a shit, the rollers don't actually turn in the sprocket and if contaminants get past the seals no lubrication will save the chain from a premature death anyway".

He liked waxes for bikes for the same reason I do, they stay on the chain longer and stop it rusting.

[Andy67]

Expert advice from a salesman? Jeez you're easy.

Must admit I haven't delved into the latest motorcycle chain lube fetishes for a while. Last time I did I asked an industrial chain manufacturer's technical manager what I should use to lube a sealed chain used in typical NZ dirt conditions. "Officially I don't give a shit" he said, "no manufacturer will claim to recommend their products be used in sand, period, in fact every one I know of has explicit disclaimers in their tech literature to that effect". "Unofficially, I also don't give a shit, the rollers don't actually turn in the sprocket and if contaminants get past the seals no lubrication will save the chain from a premature death anyway".

He liked waxes for bikes for the same reason I do, they stay on the chain longer and stop it rusting.

Thanks Ocean, good frank post and I agree. What I've noticed is that I wash my bike when I come home so longevity is not hugely important, not like a road bike where HP and sustained high speed runs are the norm. The lube is inside the chain. I just want to avoid a grinding paste that's why I was considering WD40. Anyway got back today after using CRC lube gel and not a lot of stickage.

[raftn]

Today I was amping for a ride so decided to check out the sandpit in wood hill. I have struggled with sand so decided this was the perfect place to practise.

Entry is $25 for the day which seems very reasonable. I said to the guy running the place that I was very inexperienced off road so he showed me how to navigate around.

Plenty of other bikes there but more dedicated moto x than the DRZ. I felt like a total noob.

Off I went and fair to say even the beginners route was quite a challenge for me. The advice given was to comit and keep weight towards the back of the bike. Much easier said than done in what is quite tight while the bike is totally doing a low frequencey tank slapper at reasonable speed (for me). I am really glad no one was following.

I also learnt what deep puddles where after going through some shallow ones I hit a beauty doing about 60, holly shit the whole world exploded in a tidal wave that would've gone well over my head as I unwittingly blasted through. That's the last puddle I'll be doing for a while. So glad my visor was down.

Back to the car park, drenched with sweat after what must have been less than 40 minutes. A bit of a rest then off again. More of the same even though I turned left this time. Found myself negotiate ing the deep sand in a track that was more like a snaking trench, I bounced off something and got ALL out of shape and ditched. I lay there for a minute trying to gather my thoughts and get the bike sorted and off again.

Eventually got back to the carpark and was in a similar state. Sat around for a bit taking it all in and decided that was enough for this noob today.

Shot down the gravel road to the beach and actually found getting on much easier than my last attempt, seems deep sand and wide spaces not so sacrey as llast week. I celebrated by doing a decent roost which saw me ditch again on the other side. Noob.

Great fun, but wow totally different from the biking that I've become competant at which is of course on the road.

Such a humbling and rewarding experience today. Can't wait to get out and practise more.

Fuck....supose I have to go and get a dedicated trail bike now.....you were suppose to get into some adventure riding, not bloody hard core trail riding, now what am i supposed to do.....fuck..fuck...fuck...I am going to get a KTM....or sumthng...harcore, fuck where did I put put my vodka, shit I am going on trademe...better phone my divorce lawyer now, he is kind of use to me anyway.

[Andy67]

Fuck....supose I have to go and get a dedicated trail bike now.....you were suppose to get into some adventure riding, not bloody hard core trail riding, now what am i supposed to do.....fuck..fuck...fuck...I am going to get a KTM....or sumthng...harcore, fuck where did I put put my vodka, shit I am going on trademe...better phone my divorce lawyer now, he is kind of use to me anyway.

Laughing mate, you know me, I just want to sort the hard stuff so the easy is so much more enjoyable. I will continue to put myself through this so I can keep up with you guys on the gravel and wherever else this sport my take me. I am on a learning curve Rogee !!!!!

[raftn]

Laughing mate, you know me, I just want to sort the hard stuff so the easy is so much more enjoyable. I will continue to put myself through this so I can keep up with you guys on the gravel and wherever else this sport my take me. I am on a learning curve Rogee !!!!!

You just takingthe piss now.....!!!

Carnt wait to go adventure riding in Coro.....it is a great place to get some fresh herbs.

[Andy67]

You just takingthe piss now.....!!!

Carnt wait to go adventure riding in Coro.....it is a great place to get some fresh herbs.

Me too mate, I'll talk to Jaq about this weekend and you can show me the ropes....how cool mate, totally different riding, I love it. Poor old Beemer will need a strop soon tho.....after some more back roads....

[Oscar]

Expert advice from a salesman? Jeez you're easy.

Must admit I haven't delved into the latest motorcycle chain lube fetishes for a while. Last time I did I asked an industrial chain manufacturer's technical manager what I should use to lube a sealed chain used in typical NZ dirt conditions. "Officially I don't give a shit" he said, "no manufacturer will claim to recommend their products be used in sand, period, in fact every one I know of has explicit disclaimers in their tech literature to that effect". "Unofficially, I also don't give a shit, the rollers don't actually turn in the sprocket and if contaminants get past the seals no lubrication will save the chain from a premature death anyway".

He liked waxes for bikes for the same reason I do, they stay on the chain longer and stop it rusting.

Nowt easy about me - the guy makes the stuff, so he's worth listening to, but I don't rush out and buy his product.

I'm pretty much with you about sealed chains, though. The seal either works or it doesn't so your lube is basically to stop the sprocket rusting...

I'm always amazed at guys who run chain oilers on adv bikes, too. Lets make sure that we keep our chain supllied with lube, so that sand, dust and dirt sticks effectivley...

[dmoo1790]

I'm pretty much with you about sealed chains, though. The seal either works or it doesn't so your lube is basically to stop the sprocket rusting...

I'm always amazed at guys who run chain oilers on adv bikes, too. Lets make sure that we keep our chain supllied with lube, so that sand, dust and dirt sticks effectivley...

Agree with you about oiling a dirt bike chain but I'm not so sure about lubing just for rust prevention. Without lube there is metal to metal high speed contact where the chain passes over sprockets. Surely some lube here will reduce metal to metal contact and therefore reduce wear? I dunno.

[Oscar]

Agree with you about oiling a dirt bike chain but I'm not so sure about lubing just for rust prevention. Without lube there is metal to metal high speed contact where the chain passes over sprockets. Surely some lube here will reduce metal to metal contact and therefore reduce wear? I dunno.

It was a joke...

[Andy67]

Ok I've been surfing the web and kind of confused....

Seems that there are a number of sites saying how to uncork but not really sure if they all apply to the Dr model here in NZ. Rung the local dealer and now confused, more so than usual.

I removed the snorkel which has effectively left the top of the air box open. I think ths has improved the power slightly. It's far from a beast.

I understand there maybe a restriction in the carb manifold that sits in between the carb and the block, legend tells that removal will unleash more ponies.

Can anyone confirm the existence of this restriction and vouch for the removal. Remember this is the E not SM etc.

Will I have to rejet? I don't think I'm running lean with want I've done so far and open to any words of wisdom.

Also just wondering what effect changing the front sprocket from 15 to 14 will have, will this improve acceleration markedly. Running 47 on the rear. If so will it be a bitch to ride in on the road?

Cheers

[bart]

Also just wondering what effect changing the front sprocket from 15 to 14 will have, will this improve acceleration markedly. Running 47 on the rear. If so will it be a bitch to ride in on the road?

14/47 is standard offroad gearing. This will pep things up considerably, but will be too low geared for serious road use. 100km+ will become very buzzy. Try it out. It should improve responsiveness and help a lot in the sand.

I ran 14/41 and 14/39 (with road wheels) and found that about right. The engine lugged too much with 15/41.

As for sand riding, momentum is key. Get up over about 60kmh and it all becomes so much easier. Lean back and be real loose. Don't fight the bars.

Loose sand is very difficult on tight tracks where you can't get momentum.

[Andy67]

14/47 is standard offroad gearing. This will pep things up considerably, but will be too low geared for serious road use. 100km+ will become very buzzy. Try it out. It should improve responsiveness and help a lot in the sand.

I ran 14/41 and 14/39 (with road wheels) and found that about right. The engine lugged too much with 15/41.

As for sand riding, momentum is key. Get up over about 60kmh and it all becomes so much easier. Lean back and be real loose. Don't fight the bars.

Loose sand is very difficult on tight tracks where you can't get momentum.

Cheers Bart lots to think about, think I'll give the 14 a go. 60 kph was pretty impossible to achieve or maintain in large parts at the sandpit where I was riding on the weekend, I think I need to explore that place some more. I did hit a puddle that i will not soon forget at around that speed so was trying to push along where I could. Pretty freaky at one point with pines to my right and a fence to my left deep and fluffy all over the show, wanting to up the ante but also being a bit f a chicken was a dilemma for sure. Watching some YouTube on that place makes me feel a bit better though.

[Padmei]

There is the 3x3 mod where the top of the airbox is cut out 75x75mm square, the seppos then rejet it & i think replace or gut the exhaust.
The restriction I think maybe the pollution thing.