If you run events, or charge people ride on your land, you need to read this,

[scott411]

This is from OSH, actaully department of labour,

Sports Clubs are exempt if you read it, but everyone else is not, if you collect fees it does apply,

http://www.osh.govt.nz/law/adventure...ties/index.asp

trail riding and quad biking are mentioned by name, this applys to us if we like it or not,

[george formby]

We were out at The Farm on Sunday & briefly discussed this very thing. All the forms & rules are in place in anticipation of regulation changes. Sign the form, read the rules, pay your money & ride.

[Tony.OK]

Geez that is really a bit wishy washy when applying to say, trail rides.

As long as its a school ride or run by a non self employed person it seems most does not apply. See flow chart.

Have yet to see an organised ride like the example given either

2. Grant’s Trail Riding Co offers commercial trail bike rides through a forest. rather than guiding people,
Grant’s company provides participants with devices they can activate to summon help if needed. Grant’s Trail
Riding Co would be required to obtain a safety audit and be registered because it has made provision for
participant-operator contact during the activity so that participants might reasonably infer that assistance
would be rapidly available to them if they encountered difficulty.

And what is classed as "guiding" ?

Outfits like Epic Events would even be in a grey area after reading that.
Looks like the typical ambiguous government document haha..................

[scott411]

Geez that is really a bit wishy washy when applying to say, trail rides.

As long as its a school ride or run by a non self employed person it seems most does not apply. See flow chart.

Have yet to see an organised ride like the example given either


And what is classed as "guiding" ?

Outfits like Epic Events would even be in a grey area after reading that.
Looks like the typical ambiguous government document haha..................

i would say the motorcycle clubs are out for sure, Schools maybe not, as they are not teaching people, so it is an event for them, and not part of thier normal activities, you read some of the other stuff on what makes a sporting club and their is a grey area there,

the bike parks and non club promotors (Like Epic) are in for sure, because the only way i see them out is if the speeds do not reach 15km/h

[takitimu]

Page 19, item 21 excludes clubs and people participating in a club event less than 12 days per annum.

It's a reasonable club definition as well.

Tony/epic/adventure operators/power are well in, but mnz/club events are out.

Devil in the details perhaps, but looks fair, as long as the safety audit is no different to existing.

[Ktmboy]

I've been to the workshop, well it started out as one and deteriated into a discussion (heated) that got nowhere.
The feedback was that clubs who hold trail rides may be included whether an MNZ member or not. We will all have to conform to the same set of guidelines(there is no code of practice for offroad motorcycling at present) who ever we are.

We could form a club ourselves and then pay ourselves for work contracted out and therefore we are exempt. So they are just trying to make it a general guideline thing for all so that when we turn up to a ride the same rules apply and all the arrowing is the same and means the same. etc etc and it covers everybody.

Hopefully we can get by with the minimum of fuss and at least we are doing it in NZ rather than adopting the Australian code of practice.

Some of the school rides may have a fair bit of work to do tho.