Failed twice on my restrict test

[Nzpure]

lol maybe, but maybe its just a vent. If the poster has genuinely tried to improve, they migth be suffering from a self inflicted case of stage fright by psyching themselves out after a fail, and wondering how to fix it.

I stick by what Ive said, yup, its serious, yup you need to pick your fucking game up, but do it by taking breather, refresh yourself on the theory, and make sure you have that down pat, THEN get back on the bike and practice it.


I dont think he was trying to say the tester was being picky, he was pointing out that its a test to see if you can ride safely and not kill yourself, and as such, you should EXPECT the tester to be pedantic, and still religiously to the letter of the law, and penalise you for each and every mistake.

If op drives a car he knows the rules...I would hope anyways. He needs time on his bike and maybe some training. I still think its rubbish, In saying that they are crazy hard on you now. What are they having like a 35% pass rate down from like 80%+

[Nzpure]

If the permanant speed sign is at the end of a roadworks area ... it is a legal end to a temporary speed zone. A Works end sign is not the end of the temporary speed zone ... as a set distance is required after the roadworks area before any increase of speed is permitted. There are hard and fast measurements laid down (severe penaltys for those that get caught doing it wrong) for the placement of signs showing start and finish of each change of speed zone.

bollucks.....

[tigertim20]

Question is would you have the balls to say it to his face? keyboard warrior



Sorry i had too.

Lol, 100%, yes I would, especially if im sharing the road with someone who has proven twice that they dont know the road rules.
theres plenty on here that will vouch for the fact that I dont act any different in the flesh, im an angry, opinionated cunt like that!

[FJRider]

I dont think he was trying to say the tester was being picky, he was pointing out that its a test to see if you can ride safely and not kill yourself, and as such, you should EXPECT the tester to be pedantic, and still religiously to the letter of the law, and penalise you for each and every mistake.

The testers are not required to know how to ride a motorcycle ... or what is a practical position on the road for a motorcyclist to be (from a riders perspective). They are required to fail those that they believe are riding in an unsafe manner. One (minor) error they may choose to let slide. MORE than one ... and they start getting more pedantic.

The OP does have a right of redress if he chooses to complain about the tester.

Plenty of threads on THIS site on the do's and don'ts of the learner/restriced tests. Perhaps the OP reads a few of them.

[Nzpure]

im an angry, opinionated cunt like that!

Good man!!

[crystalball]

Far out man, I can not remember the last time i saw someone doing 30km in a temporary 30km zone. They all drive like its a rally road. I wounder why you getting picked on.

[FJRider]

bollucks.....

The days when any outfit doing roadworks ... could put up roadworks/speed reduction signs are long gone. A pass in the specific course is now required.

http://www.trafficmanagementltd.co.n...nformation.pdf

[tigertim20]

Good man!!

I should add that if I was in a position to tell them to their face, I would also be in a position to offer to help them with both theory, and practical stuff, which I would certainly offer to do. No point bitching if youre not prepared to do something about it.

[unstuck]

The days when any outfit doing roadworks ... could put up roadwoks/speed reduction signs are long gone. A pass in the specific course is now required.

http://www.trafficmanagementltd.co.n...nformation.pdf

Then you get a card like this.

[FJRider]

Then you get a card like this.

Back in the day I did that sort of work on the roads ... it was pretty rough and ready ...


That card get you into pubs ???

[unstuck]

Back in the day I did that sort of work on the roads ... it was pretty rough and ready ...


That card get you into pubs ???

If ya hold it just right.

[Berries]

Then you get a card like this.

Yeah, but TC's are all monkeys.

It is rare to see a roadworks site set out the same as in the Traffic Management Plan that has been approved, this is particularly so where temporary speed limits are concerned. I will happily not adhere to temporary speed limits if 1) I cannot see the reason behind it and 2) it is clearly not set out in accordance with COPTTM. It is supposed to protect the workers/road so fuck them if they can't be bothered doing it right.

But if I was taking a test I would stick to the signs.

[FJRider]

Yeah, but TC's are all monkeys.

It is rare to see a roadworks site set out the same as in the Traffic Management Plan that has been approved, this is particularly so where temporary speed limits are concerned. I will happily not adhere to temporary speed limits if 1) I cannot see the reason behind it and 2) it is clearly not set out in accordance with COPTTM. It is supposed to protect the workers/road so fuck them if they can't be bothered doing it right.

But if I was taking a test I would stick to the signs.

Maybe so ... but get pinged 40 km's over the posted limit (and that does include the temporary one's) ... and you're walking ... 50 km's in a 30 km zone is 20 over ... 25 demerits (from memory) and the fine.

Taking the test ... and you need to be seen to be better than perfect.

[GrayWolf]

I should add that if I was in a position to tell them to their face, I would also be in a position to offer to help them with both theory, and practical stuff, which I would certainly offer to do. No point bitching if youre not prepared to do something about it.

Thing is Tim,
would you want to be taught or helped by a self confessed, self opionated, angry C**T? it really isnt a good mix as a tutor/teacher......
One reason I would never try to be a teacher, I dont have the patience and probably 20yrs ago was an angry self opinionated arrogant C**T. These days? I am not angry

[Berries]

Maybe so ... but get pinged 40 km's over the posted limit (and that does include the temporary one's) ... and you're walking ... 50 km's in a 30 km zone is 20 over ... 25 demerits (from memory) and the fine.

But then you've got to hope that the traffic management was up to scratch and the cop checked before enforcing it. The works end sign is the last sign of the lot. The speed limit sign should be placed before it, or combined as one. Maybe it had blown over, who knows, but the site was non compliant. I would be asking plenty of questions if I got pinged in a road works site.

And that's assuming the speed limit got approved in addition to the rest of the traffic management.

All the reading is in here - http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/co...nt/copttm.html