Suzuki M50 vs Harley 883 Iron

[HenryDorsetCase]

dunno what your on about, i have no mates, ride alone, and ride a cruiser way over 140km/hr

of course you do.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Darn - that's an unfortunate typo..... HDC

what makes you think it was a typo?

[The Pastor]

Costs about $1500.00, depending on model year. A 1200 kitted 883, will then actually go better than a 1200.

Why ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Why ?

The 883 heads have a smaller combustion chamber, so they run at a higher compression ratio. They also have diff size ports and create better intake velocity.

[The Pastor]

because some of us think with our branes, not our testicles, and are unconcerned what our "mates" think. Some of us have been there and done that and had the t shirt so long we are using it as a polishing rag in our garage full of all different sort of bikes. Some of us dont like to go hard on the road any more due to the unsporting nature of the rules around getting caught doing over 140kph "speeding" (in first or second gear). Some of us want to take our significant others out for a pootle on a ride where they are comfortable, and can look at the scenery, some like to "prove" how big their nads are by actually racing. Some like to do trackdays.

Different strokes for different folks: Who do you think you are to criticise anyone's choice?

Also, you can ride a fast motorbike slow....

IMO a bike needs to have a get up and go. You can have all the torque you want, you have a big torque cakewalk right through the middle of Tienamen Square and it won't make a lick of difference, because a nice powerful engine is one of the best things about riding.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Also, you can ride a fast motorbike slow....

IMO a bike needs to have a get up and go. You can have all the torque you want, you have a big torque cakewalk right through the middle of Tienamen Square and it won't make a lick of difference, because a nice powerful engine is one of the best things about riding.

hilarious: what do you think torque IS, numbnuts?

[The Pastor]

hilarious: what do you think torque IS, numbnuts?

(5252*hp)/RPM = Torque. ;-P

Heres the kicker, people always go "it dosent have much HP, but man the torque is AWESOME"

But I've always said, Why not have both.

[HenryDorsetCase]

(5252*hp)/RPM = Torque. ;-P

Heres the kicker, people always go "it dosent have much HP, but man the torque is AWESOME"

But I've always said, Why not have both.

horsepower is an abstraction: the relationship is torques and rpm: which is why the curves always cross at 5250rpm (its to do with the magic and stuff) so what you're doing is confusing rpm and torque (or something: will a mechanical engineer please help me out here!??!).

[The Pastor]

horsepower is an abstraction: the relationship is torques and rpm: which is why the curves always cross at 5250rpm (its to do with the magic and stuff) so what you're doing is confusing rpm and torque (or something: will a mechanical engineer please help me out here!??!).

The 5252 comes in to convert the units (its used when using the ft-lbs measurement).

Consider this (figures 100% made up maybe wont workout in an equation?)

bike 1 - 60hp @ 5000 RPM, 80ft0lbs torque @ 3400 RPM

bike 2 - 100hp @ 6000 RPM, 80ft0lbs torque @ 3800 RPM

Which one is faster?

[HenryDorsetCase]

The 5252 comes in to convert the units (its used when using the ft-lbs measurement).

Consider this (figures 100% made up maybe wont workout in an equation?)

bike 1 - 60hp @ 5000 RPM, 80ft0lbs torque @ 3400 RPM

bike 2 - 100hp @ 6000 RPM, 80ft0lbs torque @ 3800 RPM

Which one is faster?

What is "faster" in this context? 0-10mph? 0-60 mph? 0-100mph? absolute top speed? rollon from 50-80mph?

what does each one weigh with rider? how is each one geared? does one have aerodynamic aids and one not?

I gett he feeling we are talking past each other, and I am not confident enough in my grasp of this stuff to give you the seeing-to that you richly seem to deserve. Though there is a possibility I am talking out my arse too.

[The Pastor]

What is "faster" in this context? 0-10mph? 0-60 mph? 0-100mph? absolute top speed? rollon from 50-80mph?

what does each one weigh with rider? how is each one geared? does one have aerodynamic aids and one not?

I gett he feeling we are talking past each other, and I am not confident enough in my grasp of this stuff to give you the seeing-to that you richly seem to deserve. Though there is a possibility I am talking out my arse too.

All im saying is, a more power engine is better.

[Smifffy]

All im saying is, a more power engine is better.

Oh brother!

[The Pastor]

Oh brother!

well its like when you compare a honda to a hyosung.

Its apples and pairs.

[AllanB]

[QUOTE=renegade master;1130333565]well its like when you compare a honda to a hyosung.
QUOTE]

Hyosung are the new gay.......

[Ender EnZed]

a more power engine is better.

Because racebike.