Ktm or gas gas?

[noobi]

ok what ever ,gee boy, what aboutthe 2g you where complaining about or the couple a month it took. ill put it down to old age for my memory loss ????any your moaning shall I????. good try

I give up.

Any waaaaay, ive had 4 ktm 2 strokes and never had any major problems with then, one of them did 300 hours on the factory bottom end and clutch , ive ridden a late model gas gas and they are real nice...

If you look after any bike it should last for ages.


OP, made any progress?

[IIIRII]

ok what ever gee bot the 2g you where complaining about or the couple a month it took ill put it down to old age for my memory loss any your moaning shall I. good try

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Either way, no parts have fallen off either of them, dont recall anything falling off Barry's or mitch's either.
Maybe its just your peculiar maintenance regeme bart ?

And like I said ALL japanese car manufacturers "share" parts and that doesnt seem to detract from reliablilty, so I still dont see what the issue is with bikes sharing manufacturing sources.

Do you warn your customers off buying japanese cars for the same reason you are obsessed with putting the boot into anything that hasnt got Yamaha written on it ?

Just curious

[Trials Rider]

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Either way, no parts have fallen off either of them, dont recall anything falling off Barry's or mitch's either.
Maybe its just your peculiar maintenance regeme bart ?

And like I said ALL japanese car manufacturers "share" parts and that doesnt seem to detract from reliablilty, so I still dont see what the issue is with bikes sharing manufacturing sources.

Do you warn your customers off buying japanese cars for the same reason you are obsessed with putting the boot into anything that hasnt got Yamaha written on it ?

Just curious

Are I see it all now the word Yamaha came into it, sounds like someone feels a weeeee bit threatened, I guess you only have to look at the 2011 Erzberg results and 2011 Romaniacs top 15 bikes ask "is yamaha there" answer NO.

You will find KTM, Husaberg, Gas Gas and even Husqvarna and bugger me none of that is Japanese.

There must be a message in there some where ???????????

[green machine]

Are I see it all now the word Yamaha came into it, sounds like someone feels a weeeee bit threatened, I guess you only have to look at the 2011 Erzberg results and 2011 Romaniacs top 15 bikes ask "is yamaha there" answer NO.

You will find KTM, Husaberg, Gas Gas and even Husqvarna and bugger me none of that is Japanese.

There must be a message in there some where ???????????

Horses for courses mate,you won't find any of those brands you just named winning any Pro MX races,......except for Dungy's KTM of course......and for the record i'm not biased on bikes,i've owned Suzuki,Kawasaki,KTM and Yamaha

[barty5]

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Either way, no parts have fallen off either of them, dont recall anything falling off Barry's or mitch's either.
Maybe its just your peculiar maintenance regeme bart ?

And like I said ALL japanese car manufacturers "share" parts and that doesnt seem to detract from reliablilty, so I still dont see what the issue is with bikes sharing manufacturing sources.

Do you warn your customers off buying japanese cars for the same reason you are obsessed with putting the boot into anything that hasnt got Yamaha written on it ?

Just curious

never said it had to have yamaha on it just that i wouldnt recommend gasgas those that i know that have had them have had nothing but problems with getting parts when needed etc etc and yes im not a fan of ktm either since working on them but i have ridden them and are ok id certainly buy one over a gas gas any day.
if i was bias against only being yamaha i would have been riding hondas the last 8 months ??

[takitimu]

Are I see it all now the word Yamaha came into it, sounds like someone feels a weeeee bit threatened, I guess you only have to look at the 2011 Erzberg results and 2011 Romaniacs top 15 bikes ask "is yamaha there" answer NO.

You will find KTM, Husaberg, Gas Gas and even Husqvarna and bugger me none of that is Japanese.

There must be a message in there some where ???????????

Absolutely, the japs don't care about 2 strokes dirt bikes or extreme enduro . Whether that is smart on their part is a totally different arguement, I think they've made a strategic mistake giving KTM & to a lesser extent Husky & even lesser extent GasGas the breathing room they have.

[F5 Dave]

KTM esp have grown at a phenomenal rate, so it was a mistake to give them the means to make the capital & hence expand into road markets.

If people have had trouble getting GG parts it is a local dealer problem or Triumph NZ (which are GG distributors & are known as being useless). That said there are plenty of decent dealers like DAS in Chch which will carry most stuff & courier, or in the internet world Aus & US are packed with anything you want at good prices.

My bias? I'm a definite Yamaha fan. Love my GasGas better than anything dirty I've ridden.

[Trials Rider]

Horses for courses mate,you won't find any of those brands you just named winning any Pro MX races,......except for Dungy's KTM of course......and for the record i'm not biased on bikes,i've owned Suzuki,Kawasaki,KTM and Yamaha

Well done that was my point in the beginning, you buy a bike to suit your riding style and preferences, I had a Yamaha DT230, it was neat bike and typical Yamaha, a well built bike but I wanted more or an enduro bike, hence my Gassa EC300, suits my style.

I know it wouldn't do well in motocross, its way to gentlemanly to ride for that but a great technical trial bike

[george formby]

Well done that was my point in the beginning, you buy a bike to suit your riding style and preferences, I had a Yamaha DT230, it was neat bike and typical Yamaha, a well built bike but I wanted more or an enduro bike, hence my Gassa EC300, suits my style.

I know it wouldn't do well in motocross, its way to gentlemanly to ride for that but a great technical trial bike

Have you done any road miles on your GG? I'm on the same page when it comes to riding as you know. & a very happy camper still.

[BoristheBiter]

Well done that was my point in the beginning, you buy a bike to suit your riding style and preferences, I had a Yamaha DT230, it was neat bike and typical Yamaha, a well built bike but I wanted more or an enduro bike, hence my Gassa EC300, suits my style.

I know it wouldn't do well in motocross, its way to gentlemanly to ride for that but a great technical trial bike

That's the problem I am having with my KTM.
It is just so far removed from the XR i was on so it has meant I have had to change how I ride and it is taking some getting used to.

[F5 Dave]

Have you done any road miles on your GG? . .

I'll answer that as a previous EC200 owner & current EC300. - Only on the 200m stretches between dirt sections of organised trail rides. Once you have decent dirt tyres on you avoid tarmac as it knackers them & is 'orrible to ride on walking knobblies. You'd need another set of wheels. Pretty expensive. Or end up with compromise tyres & why have a decent bike on poor tyres?

I'm about to try a CCL needle (might as well turn this waffle where the OP has gone awol into a jetting thread)

[Trials Rider]

Have you done any road miles on your GG? I'm on the same page when it comes to riding as you know. & a very happy camper still.

No its not road registered, just as well though cause the only thing it wouldn't pass on the road is a petrol station, granted they are 50HP but you pay for the privilege, glad to hear the DT is going well, that was a neat bike, Yamahas best keep secret.

[ktm84mxc]

Love the comments on Pro MX that would only be in the States or outside Europe KTM have dominated the 125/250f class for the last 10 years, Cairoli will win simply because He's the best rider and he happens to be on a KTM.
In the States KTM have been at the pointy end of the Off Road scene with riders David Knight, Taddy and the locals KTM rders. KTM makes and sells models the market wants that's why it's a market leader its come a long way from a bankrupt company in 1992.
Jumping from a XR to a modern bike esp a 2 stroke will take some adapting same would apply to a 250/450f, hopping on and just chugging around wont cut it a modern bike has more latent ability then most riders know how to use.

[george formby]

Heard an interesting comment from a gun enduro rider recently, ardent husky user. The euro 2 strokes are more linear & rideable from the bottom through the mid range compared to big top end hit jap bikes. Have to agree too, the husky 250 was a lot more fun to ride than my Kwaka which kept trying to kill me. So euro for technical, jap for balls out?

[Trials Rider]

Love the comments on Pro MX that would only be in the States or outside Europe KTM have dominated the 125/250f class for the last 10 years, Cairoli will win simply because He's the best rider and he happens to be on a KTM.
In the States KTM have been at the pointy end of the Off Road scene with riders David Knight, Taddy and the locals KTM rders. KTM makes and sells models the market wants that's why it's a market leader its come a long way from a bankrupt company in 1992.
Jumping from a XR to a modern bike esp a 2 stroke will take some adapting same would apply to a 250/450f, hopping on and just chugging around wont cut it a modern bike has more latent ability then most riders know how to use.

Yes I agree Taddy Blazusiak makes the energizer bunny look dead, you could put that man on a CT90 and he would look good.

Yes the difference between the DT230 and the Gassa 300 is incredible, the 300 just tows its ass off, every time I think I going to stall, pull the throttle and off it goes, buckets loads of torque from the first bang.