Ktm or gas gas?

[Trials Rider]

Heard an interesting comment from a gun enduro rider recently, ardent husky user. The euro 2 strokes are more linear & rideable from the bottom through the mid range compared to big top end hit jap bikes. Have to agree too, the husky 250 was a lot more fun to ride than my Kwaka which kept trying to kill me. So euro for technical, jap for balls out?

Interesting, I compared the torque and horsepower curves from my EC300 to my friends Husky TXC510, the Gassa produces its maximum torque at lower rpm and maximum HP at a lower rpm and at these rpms had more torque and more HP than the Husky 4 banger. The Husky did peak at 60HP but at higher RPM

[scott411]

Interesting, I compared the torque and horsepower curves from my EC300 to my friends Husky TXC510, the Gassa produces its maximum torque at lower rpm and maximum HP at a lower rpm and at these rpms had more torque and more HP than the Husky 4 banger. The Husky did peak at 60HP but at higher RPM

that is standard with the 4t, they need to rev to get to the horsepower figures of the 2t's.

[Trials Rider]

that is standard with the 4t, they need to rev to get to the horsepower figures of the 2t's.

I was surprised when I rode the Husky, my Gassa felt much nicer at lower rpm and that confirmed it, I must say the Husky is a nice though, just a bit more suited to open ground rather than technical.

[F5 Dave]

that is standard with the 4t, they need to rev to get to the horsepower figures of the 2t's.

aww, what happened to the stump pulling power of a Foul-stroke & the myth of the peaky two stroke?

[ktm84mxc]

That all changed when the four bangers went to ultra short stroke motors to allow them to rev high to produce maximum hp and torque.
A modern four banger revs to 12-13000 rpm a 2 stroke of comparable size revs to 7-8000 so peak power will be produced a lot lower in the rev range.

[george formby]

Yes I agree Taddy Blazusiak makes the energizer bunny look dead, you could put that man on a CT90 and he would look good.

Yes the difference between the DT230 and the Gassa 300 is incredible, the 300 just tows its ass off, every time I think I going to stall, pull the throttle and off it goes, buckets loads of torque from the first bang.

Nirvana. A man size trials bike. I can see you costing me more money over time.

[F5 Dave]

I never wanted to sell my EC200, but then I had a ride on my mates EC300 (he'd been impressed riding my 200 previously, but went bigger) so I had to have one too, so we both ended up costing each other money.

[Trials Rider]

aww, what happened to the stump pulling power of a Foul-stroke & the myth of the peaky two stroke?

Dam good question, the two stroke power valve which should be called torque valve is an amazing piece of technology basically closing down the exhaust port making the piston go down further making the crank turn further before the gasses are let go producing bucket loads of torque but open the throttle and the power valve opens allowing the motor to come on song with the pipe, bloody clever really bottom end torque and top end power. nett result bye bye 4 banger

[Trials Rider]

Nirvana. A man size trials bike. I can see you costing me more money over time.

The Gassa is like riding a trials bike with horse power. Yeah sorry about that but money well spent.

[Jinxycat]

Hey guys is there anywere in the AK to have a look at the new gassers?

[ktm84mxc]

Not sure if Red Barron still have some they did a while ago and seem to have stock from the Beckhaus group.

[scott411]

Not sure if Red Barron still have some they did a while ago and seem to have stock from the Beckhaus group.

red baron do not do gas gas, triumph NZ (beckhaus) is the importer, not sure if there is an auckand gas gas dealer,

[ktm84mxc]

IT may be Scott like when Triple X Moto had GasGas it was run out stock , not saying there a full on dealer maybe just clearing stock for the importer.

[Trials Rider]

Hey guys is there anywere in the AK to have a look at the new gassers?

Here is the dealer list off the Gas Gas NZ web page

http://www.gasgas.co.nz/dealers.htm



ONLINE MOTORCYCLES

49 PARNELL ROAD
RAWENE, HOKIANGA
t. 09 405 7565
e. theteam@onlinemotorcycles.co.nz


SPECTRUM MOTORCYCLES

51A BARRYS POINT ROAD
TAKAPUNA
t. 09 489 5355
e. smcr@xtra.co.nz

NV MOTORCYCLES

131 THAMES STREET
MORRINSVILLE
t. 07 889 1007
e. nvmotorcycles@xtra.co.nz

NTB RACING

431C TE RAPA ROAD
TE RAPA
HAMILTON
t. 07 850 6020
e. ntbracing@mac.com


GP REDBARON

1/9 MACDONALD STREET
MOUNT MAUNGANUI
t. 07 574 6688
e. sales@gpredbaron.co.nz

WHAKATANE MOTORCYCLES

36 VALLEY ROAD
WHAKATANE
t. 07 308 7656
e. ktm@xtra.co.nz


BAILEY MOTORCYCLES

309 SOUTH ROAD
HAWERA
t. 06 278 4756
e. baileymotorcycles@xtra.co.nz

HOROWHENUA MOTORCYCLES

28 CAMBRIDGE STREET
LEVIN
t. 06 367 0004
e. whenuamc@yahoo.com.au


MOTORAD

47 VIVIAN STREET
WELLINGTON
t. 04 382 8011
e. sales@motorad.co.nz


MARLBOROUGH TRIALS CENTRE

53 GROVE ROAD
BLENHEIM
t. 03 579 2500
e. clipic80@paradise.net.nz


DAS MOTORCYCLE SERVICE

29 SAXON STREET
CHRISTCHURCH
t. 03 389 0080
e. linton@dasmoto.co.nz


MCR

79 CRAWFORD STREET
DUNEDIN
t. 03 477 0366
e. rick@replacements.co.nz


KB MOTORCYCLES

212 BOND STREET
INVERCARGILL
t. 03 214 4838
e. kbpolaris@xtra.co.nz

[scott411]

IT may be Scott like when Triple X Moto had GasGas it was run out stock , not saying there a full on dealer maybe just clearing stock for the importer.

i deal with red baron everyday, they are not gas gas dealers, (or husqavana either) they do the range of euro brand road bikes (but not triumph) that Triumph NZ does,

Spectrum is a Husqavana dealer and is listed as a GAs GAs service centre as well according to this, http://www.gasgas.co.nz/dealers.htm
but i know they do not have any on the floor,