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    So have we all given up on ACC?

    I thought that there would have been a thread started by now on

    http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/acc-s...tions/5/104097

    A 3.5 Billion surplus in ACC

    did a search and didn't find anything regarding this on the site which amazes me as personally this pisses me off and shows that everything Dick Smith has spouted has been pure crap and no one seems to care anymore. Surely someone representing the biking fraternity should be speaking up on this???


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    "The motor vehicle levies on vehicles and petrol are to remain the same. The solvency in the Motor Vehicle Account is significantly behind the Work and Earners' accounts. Levy reductions will be possible in the next term of Government for motorists if the ongoing performance improvements in ACC are maintained," Dr Smith said.

    So if ACC's performance improvements are maintained we get a reduction - so its their fault in the first place - Bastards as I prepare to swallow the latest registration payment


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    Yeah, it's a hard pill to swallow - Nearly $500 for my little 225cc bike. I am penalised for the actions of others...

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    ...to answer the question...yes, about 18 months ago.
    The subject has now reefed itself with very little visable angst to the Environment Minister.

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    Well me ol mate part of the problem is this, those who tried to represent got vilified for even attempting to do so, by their own kind.
    Those who became govt advisors/MSL members got paid and guess what, yep they went quiet, those who did not go quiet were removed.
    Many here in KB have had a lot to say, most did nothing,waiting to see who did what.
    I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    Well me ol mate part of the problem is this, those who tried to represent got vilified for even attempting to do so, by their own kind.
    Those who became govt advisors/MSL members got paid and guess what, yep they went quiet, those who did not go quiet were removed.
    Many here in KB have had a lot to say, most did nothing,waiting to see who did what.
    I'm done.
    Shame eh mate? I guess I ran out of oomph in the end, really hard to push shit up hill with a pointy stick. I am still here, but would need one hell of a lot of support to get stuck in again.

    ACC was the boat we needed to push, that opportunity was lost just after BIKEOI and the rest as you say is history. Some of us tried. My conscience is clear.
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    Well me ol mate part of the problem is this, those who tried to represent got vilified for even attempting to do so, by their own kind.
    Those who became govt advisors/MSL members got paid and guess what, yep they went quiet, those who did not go quiet were removed.
    Many here in KB have had a lot to say, most did nothing,waiting to see who did what.
    I'm done.
    Summed up pretty well there mate. I just can't wait to see what the remaining members on the MASC (sorry, MOTO-NZ) are going to do with our money next - although apparently the money they were expecting has been greatly reduced as a number of naughty motorcyclists haven't swallowed their pill properly and relicensing numbers are about half what they used to be.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Summed up pretty well there mate. I just can't wait to see what the remaining members on the MASC (sorry, MOTO-NZ) are going to do with our money next - although apparently the money they were expecting has been greatly reduced as a number of naughty motorcyclists haven't swallowed their pill properly and relicensing numbers are about half what they used to be.
    that is nowhere near low enough, that just sounds like we stopped registering our 2nd bikes.


    *no not all bikers have 2 & some have more, I'm averaging it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    although apparently the money they were expecting has been greatly reduced as a number of naughty motorcyclists haven't swallowed their pill properly and relicensing numbers are about half what they used to be.
    So this initiative was all about compliance? If these turncoats could convince us bikers to play ball for less levies the govt would invest a decent amount of money in motorcycle safety?

    FFS! What a crock of shit!

    Wish I had a penis, blow jobs must feel wonderful

    Those blokes must be beside themselves with pride. They have furthered their political careers, and apparently got away unscathed with shitting on their fellow bikers. Go them!

    Just to clarify I am not directing to you personally, though it probably read that way, sorry if it did.
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    Nonono,

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    The easy option is just don't pay rego, I wont be its cheaper to get 1 fine per year then pay the reg. If every body stopped paying reg they would quickly get the idea.

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    If everyone stopped paying rego you can gaurantee they won't say "d'oh they outsmarted us". The cops would be out in force stopping bikes and issuing fines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigadee View Post
    I am penalised for the actions of others...
    Maybe not the 'others' you're thinking of though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    So this initiative was all about compliance? If these turncoats could convince us bikers to play ball for less levies the govt would invest a decent amount of money in motorcycle safety?

    FFS! What a crock of shit!

    Wish I had a penis, blow jobs must feel wonderful

    Those blokes must be beside themselves with pride. They have furthered their political careers, and apparently got away unscathed with shitting on their fellow bikers. Go them!

    Just to clarify I am not directing to you personally, though it probably read that way, sorry if it did.

    I'm not taking it personally at all Anne. I'm just as annoyed about the ACC thing as anybody else. The MSL, had, at it's heart, good intentions. Pity like all good intentions, the devil is in the details - roads to hell and all that.

    I don't personally believe that the members of the MOTONZ council are there purely for the money and to further their political careers at all. From what I've seen there's been a fair bit of work they've had to do and like all government appointed groups they have found that it's one thing to work hard and come up with ideas and another thing to get the Minister to actually do something - that, and the incessant red tape involved in these things seems to make a lot of money get spent for fuck all reward.

    And as for your other comment, I'm sure a blow job feels just as good as any other form or oral sex. So I'm sure you're not missing out being female.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    I don't personally believe that the members of the MOTONZ council are there purely for the money and to further their political careers at all.
    I still can't help feeling that was a case of Nick keeping his enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Maybe not the 'others' you're thinking of though.

    Y'know Steve, in my more cynical moments I've been known to muse about whether or not the complete eradication of ALL motorcycle accidents would make a blind bit of difference to this government's attitudes towards the ACC levy for motorcyclists.

    I notice with interest that Nick Smith today has today announced a HUGE surplus and also said that the motor vehicle levy and non-workers account "may" be opened up to competition now.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...ectid=10758664
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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