would love to see it open up on the Baja or nevada score races
Nana on a Hotrod
would love to see it open up on the Baja or nevada score races
'Good things come to those who wait'
Bollocks, get of your arse and go get it
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Ossa. Still, I'm all for 500cc mxers going to it. May make me buy another one. Good thread cheers Mark!Originally Posted by Jay GTI
Bogeyman
I see they're about to release their new endoro machine, based on that trials engine.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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Yeah very cool!
Forum whore
It's an enduro bike and it's not a full production bike either (although very, very close).
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Hopefully it works well and the Japanese decide they need to jump back in that particular sandpit!
Bogeyman
Speaking of which... http://www.ossamotor.es/EN/models.php?idMoto=339
I didn't know that was in the wind.
74KgEven my tired old arse could punt that around.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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Fuck that's ugly!Speaking of which... http://www.ossamotor.es/EN/models.php?idMoto=339
I didn't know that was in the wind.
74Kg
Highway Biker
None of the big four will go back to 2t, they make to much money from suckers who buy 4t. I'm not bringing the 2t, 4t thing up for debate or really want to argue the point.
But as it stands, retail bike shops make F all mark up on a new dirt bike, they rely on maintance and parts.
If you were one of the big four would you build a bike that was easy to repair yourself or would need a mechanic to fix. Obviously you would look after your infastructure.
Without it you would have no-one to sell your product, I feel for retailers cause they are the ones stuck in the middle.
The move to 4t was not brought about emissons or any other enviromently friendly bull, it was the bottom line and some clown deciding the future was 4t, I doubt that person ever rode or even owned a dirt bike.
Then came a huge investment in technolgy and with time emissions followed, the money spent would have been huge. Lets take a bike from the last generation before EFI. That bike would be an 07-08 crf450, a nice bike that handled well, made 50-55hp, reliable and overall a good bike. Technology wise really nothing further to do.
Lets take a CR500 , the last up grade was in 93 and stayed the same till production stopped in 2001, it handled ok for a bike built in 93. Power wise it made 55hp at the rear when jetted properly. If you add it up, it took Honda 15 years to produce a motor with the same output, but was still 3kg heavier than a cr500 motor. Granted it takes either a brave soul or a talented rider to pull the trigger on a cr500, but if the money spent on a 4t was invested. the imagination runs wild.
The latest 450 EFI are in there third or fourth generation what ever, power rating are floating around the same mark as the last generation, smoothness have been the comments and at the end of the day its where its at in terms of speed and performance in a race application, suspension is set up to provde that foundation.
Mark has taken the CR500 to the next step with EFI, when you go back to the previous statements about power a 2t walks over a 4t when applied in the right application. EFI has added 15hp to a standard motor, it has a number of applications where power delvivery can be managed. What has a 4t done to justify EFI other than what was stated. To arrive at the same power rating what would you have to do and how much money would it cost to get to 70hp.
I doubt I will never see a CR500 talked about in terms of appliction and rider useabilty as the time for 2t has passed, but there needs to be acknowledgement and reconisation for services provided.We as Kiwi's are known for our pioneering attitutte, I'm proud of that determination and willingness to overcome, we are known for it all over the world.
So don't talk shit about whats happened over there, it is a first and give the man a heads up for a job well done. HEADS UP MATE!!!!!!!!
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I agree. Superb effort, and I for one would love one!
Forum whore
Reckon there'd be a few of us 4T converts lining up for a FI 2T as well, I would be...
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I reckon! I recently got my hands (fingers crossed anyway) on a genuine SR Kawasaki. I at first thought it was a 125 as the pics were so bad, but it turned out to be a 250. It may yet be an SR500. If it is...I'm back into the 500 smoker arena minus the injection anyway!
Can't wait.
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It's funny, this being my first modern 4T I've been looking at the Kato and thinking "please don't blow up, please don't blow up" but ever since I saw a certain 380 smoker donk in a 350 frame I've been thinking "yeah go on, blow up" ha ha...
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I still feel the pain
SHE LOOKED UP AT ME WITH BLOOD IN HER EYES
THEN HER SKIN FELL OFF
AND SHE PROMPTLY DIED
IT WAS EBOLA, LA LA LA EBOLA
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lol. I think Choppa is gonna sell that beast mate. Get hold of him.
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