L-Plate Rider
New biker, nil to min experience. Looking fore a bike to learn and gain confidence riding. also cheap commuting you work and back.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=473585871 - bottom dollar 2.2k
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=468884133 - 2.8k
Which one would suit me and better deal/ resale value just in case I find riding is not my thing.
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Hardcore Biker
the two bikes will handle and feel very different to each other. Have you sat on either? or at least sat on a naked and a cruiser in a dealership? You might find the cruiser style is not for you, but the more sporty (I use the term loosely ok?) hyo is just the thing.
resale? no idea sorry.
I would however recommend you spend less on a bike and more on good quality gear. As long as it doesn't have any mechanical problems that is.
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Hardcore Punk
I would go the hyosung if it was me, the other one would need shipping from wanaka, and the hyo looks to be in better condition. Good luck.
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Que?
I'd go the Hyobag. It's gayness is less by a miniscule amount.
KB's Chief Cats
i will not support the chinese for at least another 10-15 years (when they're proven themselves) that said, plenty of people have ridden them (quite hard) and found few faults.
i also will not support a GN. although that engine is only just broken in and, if you look after it, you can pass on to your boring grandchildren you'll have since you're probably not going to kill yourself on it, but nor will it be much fun once you have got the hang of it.
it will depend on what you want out of a bike, if you think you're going to be a badass gimp-clad racer then go for the hyo sports style, although personally i prefer the more upright riding position of that 'zuki style. - it's also more forgiving if SHTF.
of those two bikes the hyo takes my vote by a whisker.
of ANY bike, i'd be talking more kawasaki ninja or an older vintage (my first bike ++ =D ) or a cb hornet , fzr/tzr 250 OR wait until the power-weight laws come in and get yourself a 400 or something, which can be more comforting for larger folk.
get some mates and get some saddle time, find out what you like and dont like and take it from there.
Oppan Biker Style
Rooney111 - What are you like physically? Tall? Short? Beefy? Slim?
The GZ250 would suit you if you were short, and were not physically strong to manhandle the bike in case it fell over. The GZ's lower centre of gravity would make it easier to manager and steer. The upright seating posture is more comfortable for puttering around town, and the leg position [feet in front] is comfortable for the long-legged. I ride a cruiser like this and it should be a good first/learner bike. Naked cruisers like this though make you open to the wind, so the motorway the wind can buffet you and the upright seating position actually works against you unless you get a wind screen/shield.
The GT250 is a taller heavy machine. Its V-twin engine gives good get up and go till the 110kph limit, then it struggles. I've ridden a GT250 and while it was tall enough for my 6' 1" frame, it was cramped in terms of leg room/posture, which is why I didn't like it - that and the fact that it was heavy and was really hard to get up once it fell over. It's weight is an advantage in strong windy conditions though. If that's not for you, then have a good think about it.
If you're a large fella - if you're a fella - then you may want to consider applying for an exemption from NZTA to the 250cc limit. I managed to get one and got a Yamaha XJ400 Diversion, slightly large than your average 250cc bike and heaps more comfortable. If you're short or average-height, then ignore that last sentence - the 250cc world is your oyster...
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mad thou rider
we need more info mate, how tall are you, how much do you weigh, where do you livem what type of riding will you do? commute? weekend hoons? where will this riding be? around town? motorway riding?Originally Posted by rooney111
we need this kind of info to help guide you, but ultimately, you will need to try them, or at least sit on them to make your final decision, bikes are very personal.
Hardcore Biker
You're an idiot.....its not a chinese bike.....
Go the hyobag mate, the marauder will be gutless in comparison and the naked hyobags riding position isn't bad and you will have heaps more fun it!
KB -Turning young innocent novice riders into cynical arsehole bikers since ages ago
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Next time you should post the full links so we don't have to copy and paste.
Special Project
Go around the dealers and see what suits you in terms of seating etc. I bought a VTR250 (cos I like 'em nekkid) and loved it. I tried riding a friend's Yamaha Virago (250 V-Twin) (similar style to the Marauder) on a roadtrip and decided after 15 minutes that I just didn't like it - I felt like my limbs were just all over the place. But it had nice low down torque (compared to the VTR) and a nice sound, it just lacked anything up top. On the other hand, my mate didn't really like the riding position of the VTR and was glad to get back on his vagina
In fact, I don't know your situation but if you want to someone to go around a few shops with flick me a PM, sometimes it's good to be able to talk through the bike with someone else.
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Hardcore Punk
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
Hardcore Biker
It looks so weird tho...
KB -
L-Plate Rider
173cm, 73kg, chch, primarily looking to get to work and back. But first and foremost need to learn riding. Most of riding will be normal road with about 10mins on motorway everyday. Tried the comet and its big but not too big. I see what you mean by being heavy and suits taller people. I'm really torn between a cruiser and naked comet.
Don't want too heavy just in case if I cant lift it back up, but do not want too light for it to get too dangerous on windy conditions. I do lift at the gym so hoping to make use of the strength lols
L-Plate Rider
I'm short and not beefy but not puny either. Okay thats just the manpride talking, I wouldn't have a clue. Next time I go check out a bike I will try manhandle it and see how successful I am.
You actually sold me there with the GZ250 description, that is exactly what I want from a bike, but being light weight in wind is a little concern. From what I've gathered comet gt250 is actually not a bad first learners bike? And no I won't have to go over 110km/h and I don't wish to at this stage.
Haha @ the 'if you're a fella'. Dude don't play with another man's ego its dangerous lols!
Hardcore Punk
Not as dangerous as playing with another mans bits.
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
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