Another motorcyclist dies hitting the wire median barrier

[Crasherfromwayback]

When I saw the photo of the bike last night I thought I recognised it and hoped it was not Bryan, sadly I am wrong. I only met him recently this year on the Brass Monkey run, he was a decent bloke and will be sadly missed. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.

Horrible feeling that. In my years in the industry, I've seen way too many pics like that.

[FJRider]

Horrible feeling that. In my years in the industry, I've seen way too many pics like that.

The one hope I've always had. That a photo of MY bike ... never features in such a manner.

Seeing the pic's hurt ... but knowing the riders goes deeper.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The one hope I've always had. That a photo of MY bike ... never features in such a manner.

Seeing the pic's hurt ... but knowing the riders goes deeper.

Yeah it's ugly. It's a tough one too. Showing them may (we can only hope) make people think and try to avoid such things. But at the same time, it's really rough on those involved.

[GSF]

Goddammit. I just saw a small story in the paper today saying it was Bryan Wyness.
Very sad, he really was a top bloke. Used to come into my old workplace most days of the week, always cheerful and had time to chat to the young guy about bikes. He rode all over the place with Gareth Morgan's crew and he had a collection of old Ariel Square Fours.

Very shitty, he deserved better than that. Thoughts are with the family and friends.

[sidecar bob]

Several weeks ago a member of this site & absolutely top rider, chucked a big Honda down the road in the exact same spot without injury, due to sudden & unexpected loss of traction.
Both these guys can obviously control a bike, I expect there may be a problem with the road surface.

[PrincessBandit]

Just read the linked article about - last ride for Silk rider. That one stated "police are baffled...believe he was riding very slowly...only minor contact with the rope barrier..." But hey, this is still the media which is not exactly renowned for guaranteed correct reporting of facts.

My thoughts too are that death by natural causes must account for some percentage of traffic fatalities. Now while I'm not saying that this is the case here, it could be a possibility and naturally it will go down in the official stats as a motorbike death. As riders we know we are considerably more vulnerable to any deviation from the path of what we can reasonably expect (i.e. if we continue on the path we're riding with all due care, diligence and awareness we should arrive at our destination unharmed). Nevertheless how many times have we encountered problems with either our bike, nature (wasps, bird strike, sudden gust of wind that comes out of nowhere) or maybe even our own health which suddenly turns a great or uneventful ride into a precarious negotiation of vehicle handling and staying alive?

Speculation over cause is only that, and discussion is only helpful if it reminds us (a) to live life to the full as if every day could be our last and (b) encourage us to be ever vigilant and aware of our 'bubble and beyond' when we are on two wheels.

Although very sad, he at least seems to have lead an eventful, exciting and rich life before moving on.

[FJRider]

My thoughts too are that death by natural causes must account for some percentage of traffic fatalities. Now while I'm not saying that this is the case here, it could be a possibility and naturally it will go down in the official stats as a motorbike death.

Going by reports of vehicle accidents in the past, where drivers were affected by medical afflictions ... heart attack or other. And ... cause of death was of natural causes, the death was not included in the road toll.

[Ender EnZed]

Going by reports of vehicle accidents in the past, where drivers were affected by medical afflictions ... heart attack or other. And ... cause of death was of natural causes, the death was not included in the road toll.

It wouldn't always be possible to tell when a fatal crash was caused by a medical condition though.

[FJRider]

It wouldn't always be possible to tell when a fatal crash was caused by a medical condition though.

If in doubt what caused such a death (or to confirm the cause) an autopsy is automaticly done. Seldom is cause of death by natural causes not listed as such.

[Ender EnZed]

If in doubt what caused such a death (or to confirm the cause) an autopsy is automaticly done. Seldom is cause of death by natural causes not listed as such.

Yes, but an autoposy of a guy that's had a head on with a truck isn't going to show if he lost consciousness before crossing the centre line.

[BMWST?]

Yes, but an autoposy of a guy that's had a head on with a truck isn't going to show if he lost consciousness before crossing the centre line.

you would be surprised

[rustic101]

Going by reports of vehicle accidents in the past, where drivers were affected by medical afflictions ... heart attack or other. And ... cause of death was of natural causes, the death was not included in the road toll.

You are absolutely correct. The ultimate decision is made by the Coroner.

[Ender EnZed]

you would be surprised

Probably, but surely there'd be occasions when the mess emergency crews get left with just doesn't leave enough evidence to say what state the driver was in prior to the crash.

[Berries]

Probably, but surely there'd be occasions when the mess emergency crews get left with just doesn't leave enough evidence to say what state the driver was in prior to the crash.

It's true, but probably not the best thread to discuss it.

[Coldrider]

Yes, but an autoposy of a guy that's had a head on with a truck isn't going to show if he lost consciousness before crossing the centre line.

presumably you are talking about a heart attack. When heart tissue is injured enzymes leak into the bloodstream.
i'm leaving it at that.