Legal advice wanted - Traffic offence

[onearmedbandit]

Ask onearmedbandit.

I was wondering if you were going to mention that lol.

[Drew]

Yeah, but he's still going to enter a conviction, isn't he? You might save a couple hundy in fines, but I think the conviction on the record is what MR's probably most worried about.

And in that respect, I think he's fuuuuuuuuuu...

Perhaps now is a good time to point out, that 'careless use' as a charge on it's own, is not a criminal conviction, only a traffic violation.

[Motoracer]

Thank you very much for your inputs people. They were really helpful.

[Steve Gauge]

yep your fucked , I think road kill hit the nail on the head youll have to eat it

[98tls]

It's not just a honda thing ... a 98 tls (Suzuki) in Oamaru apparently does it too ...

And still walking,the speed at which the motorcycle is travelling with front wheel in the air seems to influence the charge,then theres the Waitaki bridge incidentWhy cant the past just be left in pastNot long to go.

[FJRider]

Perhaps now is a good time to point out, that 'careless use' as a charge on it's own, is not a criminal conviction, only a traffic violation.

Also a good time to point out it can be liable for a $3000 fine ... and and a period of walking ... (no doubt the amount of walking ... dependent on the mood of the judge)

A Traffic violation with teeth.

[Drew]

Also a good time to point out it can be liable for a $3000 fine ... and and a period of walking ... (no doubt the amount of walking ... dependent on the mood of the judge)

A Traffic violation with teeth.

Rastus, you reckon that'd ever be handed out?

[jrandom]

Perhaps now is a good time to point out, that 'careless use' as a charge on it's own, is not a criminal conviction, only a traffic violation.

If it's handed out on the roadside, it's a traffic infringement.

If it's handed out in court, it's a criminal offence, like DUI, assault, theft, whatever, and goes on your criminal record.

I think. Am I wrong?

[Marmoot]

Rastus, you reckon that'd ever be handed out?

Yep. Seen it with my own eyes.

[DEATH_INC.]

The last careless I had was 3 months loss and $600 fine. But that was ages ago....
You're fucked MR, just admit guilt and take whatever they chuck at ya. It's very hard to win, to the court, the cops word is gold. If you fight it, you'll probably get done for 300kph and a 6 mile wheelie, at least in my experience....

[Madness]

300kph and a 6 mile wheelie...

Gotta love those Kawasakis.

[FJRider]

If it's handed out on the roadside, it's a traffic infringement.

If it's handed out in court, it's a criminal offence, like DUI, assault, theft, whatever, and goes on your criminal record.

I think. Am I wrong?

It's an offence under the Land Transport Act. (don't ask me what section) ... instant court case ...

[Madness]

It's an offence under the Land Transport Act. (don't ask me what section) ... instant court case ...

If found guilty of careless use of a motor vehicle under the land transport act a conviction is entered and recorded in a similar manner to a conviction handed down under any other law, including the crimes act. It can go against you not just in terms of sentencing for future offences and insurance risk analysis but even employment eligibility. I once missed out on a job with an organisation I had worked for previously and was told that I was unsuccessful because of conviction(s) gained since my previous employment. My only convictions are for careless use (I think of it as being creative).

[FJRider]

If found guilty of careless use of a motor vehicle under the land transport act a conviction is entered and recorded in a similar manner to a conviction handed down under any other law, including the crimes act. It can go against you not just in terms of sentencing for future offences and insurance risk analysis but even employment eligibility. I once missed out on a job with an organisation I had worked for previously and was told that I was unsuccessful because of conviction(s) gained since my previous employment. My only convictions are for careless use (I think of it as being creative).

Some people ... and countries ... take a dim view of court convictions.

It can limit your travel plans and gaining a Visa to enter some countries. (like the USA ... and Aussie. Which I find amusing considering Aussie's history)

[98tls]

Some people ... and countries ... take a dim view of court convictions.

It can limit your travel plans and gaining a Visa to enter some countries. (like the USA ... and Aussie. Which I find amusing considering Aussie's history)

Indeed,i know a pom that recently sold his Ducati to aid in the move to Australia,when talking to him a few weeks back i said "farkin hell it wasnt that long ago it would have been far easier to get caught stealing one and go by boat".