It's time to get a bike!

[Oblivion]

A point here though is that a tidy MC19 is better than a shitpot MC22.

Don't be dragged in getting a MC22 if you know that its going to be in poor condition. Even if its not teh bike that you want, its damn near close enough.

[mossy1200]

No shit? I've always heard the 250 IL4s (particularly the CBRs) need to be spun up a lot to get em going. Particularly from a standstill. My Scorpio even with my fat 110kg ass on it pulled right from 1500 RPM without a problem. In fact my old scorpio pulled harder between 1500-4k then my 400 does

Learn something new everyday!

Apples and Pears

mc22 first gear is most likely equals gn 3rd gear.
Try starting the gn in 3rd and you will need to rev it and ride the clutch.

you cant compair a 170click close ratio gearbox to a 120click cruiser gear ratio.

[Subike]

Hi there everyone,I'm a newbie here.I joined up ages ago but I am back again.
I've decided it's time to learn to ride a bike,everytime I see someone on a bike,I feel so bad because I have always wanted to ride a bike.But never made the effort to.

I have no experience riding one But I have been doing a lot of research and decided I want a honda CBR MC22 to learn on.I am a quick learner and am very determined to fulfil this little bike-riding dream.
I am 5'6,69kgs and of slim to medium build so I want a light bike with good handling.

I've been looking on trademe and found two bikes that I'll be learning on.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=489601515

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=495854003

Question,does it seem like the second bike has a single brake disc on the front?I know MC22s have two.

And does anyone know anyone who can help me check the bikes out?I have no knowledge of anything about bikes and I cannot test ride out without a license. I want to buy a bike and get my learners etc before the new law comes out.

Thanks.

Dont be in such a hurry to die young fella

you state you have never ridden a bike

are wanting to buy a style of bike that will not be very forgiving to learn on

you live in a high density vehicle environment

you are trying to beat the onset of a law change designed to make me safer on the road from persons like yourself with no experience.

buy something safe to learn on, as suggested by many, a gn250, a 225 scorpio, it you want to live to see xmass without injury

[zique]

Wow,seems like I need to make a pros and cons list for the MC19 and MC22.
Thanks for the specs Mossy1200.Glad to hear the single rotor is bigger so would work almost as good as twin smaller rotors in a heavy braking situation (not that I plan to do any of that in the near future).
Has anyone ridden the Honda CBR125? It is a step down and would be slower but is it fast enough to get up to speed fast enough when going onto the motorway?Once I am comfortable riding,I'll be riding my bike to work which means taking the motorway.

[mossy1200]

A point here though is that a tidy MC19 is better than a shitpot MC22.

Don't be dragged in getting a MC22 if you know that its going to be in poor condition. Even if its not teh bike that you want, its damn near close enough.

+1 to old

Get a hornet or low km bandit or newer 250 with less power and more life left in it.
86-95 250 normally equals speedo disco,boy raced,droped and crashed alot,poor maintence,dead suspension and alot of wear in bushes bearings,a motor that could blow tomorrow and so on.

[ducatilover]

Hornet is the best naked 250 (except the Spada, but I'll leave my biased opinion out) you can buy.

The MC22 has 296mm brakes.
The MC19 has a single 310mm unit, same as the VT250/VTR250
The MC22 obviously has a lot more room for getting rid of heat

Have a look/sit on Hornets.
Same engine as the '93 onwards MC22, the 40hp unit, very reliable.
Great looking too, big bike looks!

[zique]

Hi there Subike.I wish I was a young fella but I am 32 years old.I've had my wild years in my sport cars behind me so I am more safety conscious now while trying to live out a dream.
I can understand the law change and I don't intend to learn on a public road with high traffic.I live down a street thats very quiet at night and the drive-way is long enough to learn braking at low speeds.
The last thing I wish to do is present a danger to myself or anyone else on the road.

I wish I could say I'd a GN or Scorpio but I am someone who finds it hard to drive or ride something that doesn't particularly inspire or make me happy and excited to ride it.I've fallen for honda cbr,sadly.I love the older bikes better as I grew up watching Wayne Gardner and Mick Doohan racing to victory.
As I said before I've been contemplating getting a CBR125 if I have to.

[ducatilover]

Actually, fuck all of them, get the RVF400R. Best performance bike you can ride after the LAMS change, end of story.
Best looking/sounding/resale/fastest/brakes/handling/penis value

[Grantman_]

Wow,seems like I need to make a pros and cons list for the MC19 and MC22.
Thanks for the specs Mossy1200.Glad to hear the single rotor is bigger so would work almost as good as twin smaller rotors in a heavy braking situation (not that I plan to do any of that in the near future).
Has anyone ridden the Honda CBR125? It is a step down and would be slower but is it fast enough to get up to speed fast enough when going onto the motorway?Once I am comfortable riding,I'll be riding my bike to work which means taking the motorway.

I rode a cbr125 very briefly in order to get the feel of road riding in preparation for buying and riding home an MC22. I pretty much outgrew it in minutes. That's with hardly any riding experience so it says a heck of a lot. It's a commuter nugget.

[Subike]

Hi there Subike.I wish I was a young fella but I am 32 years old.I've had my wild years in my sport cars behind me so I am more safety conscious now while trying to live out a dream.
I can understand the law change and I don't intend to learn on a public road with high traffic.I live down a street thats very quiet at night and the drive-way is long enough to learn braking at low speeds.
The last thing I wish to do is present a danger to myself or anyone else on the road.

I wish I could say I'd a GN or Scorpio but I am someone who finds it hard to drive or ride something that doesn't particularly inspire or make me happy and excited to ride it.I've fallen for honda cbr,sadly.I love the older bikes better as I grew up watching Wayne Gardner and Mick Doohan racing to victory.
As I said before I've been contemplating getting a CBR125 if I have to.

I can appreciate rage young fella lol, Im 55
Wayne Gardner and Nick Doonan had to qualify to race in those races you saw them in
I doubt if they did that qualifying after having 6 mths riding experience.
There is no such thing as an empty street of a quiet road, unless its a race track
You can never ever tell when somebody else decide the same as you to practice on a quiet street..

I too have driven sport cars and performance cars, and will say, the difference between them and a bike is more them most may think.
You can drive safely at as little as %60 concentration in a car, try that on a bike you are dead!

Your last statement about the cbr125 is probably more realistic.

[Katman]

I rode a cbr125 very briefly in order to get the feel of road riding in preparation for buying and riding home an MC22. I pretty much outgrew it in minutes. That's with hardly any riding experience so it says a heck of a lot. It's a commuter nugget.

You're hardly a glowing example of sense and sensibility though, are you?

[mossy1200]

Dont get a 125 or 150 if you want more than a get to work bike. They arnt bad bikes to own but if you want a good ride in the weekend out of town get a newer 2 cylinder 250 or a year approx 2000-2005 30-40 hp naked inline 4 that hasnt been riden by 15 Rossi wanna Bezers.

Hornet (1 )
Bandit (2 )
Ninja 2 cylinder (3 )

Would be my order of choice for 2.5k to 3.5k range for round town and out of town plus weekend fun.

Fxr150,Cbr125 for in town bike and go to work bike

Failing that buy the cheapist 250 with a warrent and rego you can find to ride and recover your coin later in October to get a bigger bike on the LAMs law change. That would give you something you can learn on and not risk much loss to get some experience to buy a 400-650 off the LAMs list later.

[zique]

55 years old and still riding bikes,the love in you for bikes must be really strong
You are right about the two great Aussie riders,I know their skills weren't honed in a few months,it tooks many many years.Riding a bike to its extreme limits is more than an art it seems
I have psyched myself up for the total concentration I would need when I am riding a bike.There's no shell (like a car) to protect me from anything and I know there's only so much protection my gear will provide me.
I'll look into the 125cc bikes or trial out a gn250.

Actually, fuck all of them, get the RVF400R. Best performance bike you can ride after the LAMS change, end of story.
Best looking/sounding/resale/fastest/brakes/handling/penis value

Haha,very tempting! I just googled that bike and oh wow!! Nothing on trademe though
Just wondering if such a bike would be just as thrashed and abused as a MC19 or MC22.

[ducatilover]

Haha,very tempting! I just googled that bike and oh wow!! Nothing on trademe though
Just wondering if such a bike would be just as thrashed and abused as a MC19 or MC22.

I'd put more faith in a tidy RVF than a CBR. The RVF is not a leaner bike currently, it is a bike ridden by chaps who love bikes, 99% of them are well maintained and there is huge amounts of info on them on the net.
However, a Hornet is probably more suitable, but, buy whatever floats yer boat most, it's not me that has to be happy with what you ride/how you ride

[Subike]

At 55 I,m still young, young enough to be the son of one of our local riders who at 83 has just bought himself an 883 Sportster....

And got a speeding ticket on it when going to the greymouth races from Christchurch this year.

But i got here by riding little bikes when i was young...fuckin slow little bikes.