Valve seat cutting

**Drew** · 9th August 2012, 18:53

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Reconing is dieing, there's only a couple in the hutt. Far cheaper & easier to plonk in an import or wrecked unit & then hope like all feckery that it isn't as shagged as the last one & the seller was being honest. If its a Mitsi then its pretty much Fait Accompli, as they will all be poked.

Bullshit Dave, stick to you RG because you clearly know nothing about the common fault of the Mitsi motors.

A 4g63 will need two things in 400,000ks. 4 cambelts as maintainence, and new valve stem seals.

Replacement motor from a running donor car $200. Valve stem seals and seat grind, and a gasket set.$800 would more than cover that work.

So the $2000+ it cost me for a complete rebuild was compltely over the top, for a car worth less than that to begin with.

Me not appreciating his service? I fuckin doubt it.

I will concede however, that the person who took it to him can be a very nasty bitch when she wants to, so it's possible she told him to do it that way. But for him to then chase me for a bill without ever even having spoken to me before is not right.

**Ocean1** · 9th August 2012, 19:07

Originally Posted by Drew

A 4g63 will need two things in 400,000ks. 4 cambelts as maintainence, and new valve stem seals.

And rings. Mate of mine once made a small fortune on a bet, he was stretched out in the back of a van with the bikes and bet the driver he could smell a Mitsi. Not every one, just 10 bucks every time he said we were following one, 20 bucks the other way if he was wrong. By the time we got home from Taupo he was up a couple of hundred, got it wrong just the once, it was a Vauxhall Chevett.

**richban** · 9th August 2012, 19:23

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And rings. Mate of mine once made a small fortune on a bet, he was stretched out in the back of a van with the bikes and bet the driver he could smell a Mitsi. Not every one, just 10 bucks every time he said we were following one, 20 bucks the other way if he was wrong. By the time we got home from Taupo he was up a couple of hundred, got it wrong just the once, it was a Vauxhall Chevett.

Wonder if he could pick mine. Runs on bbq gas.

**Drew** · 9th August 2012, 19:36

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And rings. Mate of mine once made a small fortune on a bet, he was stretched out in the back of a van with the bikes and bet the driver he could smell a Mitsi. Not every one, just 10 bucks every time he said we were following one, 20 bucks the other way if he was wrong. By the time we got home from Taupo he was up a couple of hundred, got it wrong just the once, it was a Vauxhall Chevett.

It's usually in the head, not in the cylinders.

But anyway, I paid for the crank to be built up and ground, new rods, slugs and rings. Cam to be built up and ground, including all the rockers. New valves, and retainers and everything else.

It was an excessive rebuild on a motor that should have been scrapped.

Yeah, I'm still bitter about it.

**Ocean1** · 9th August 2012, 19:47

Originally Posted by richban

Wonder if he could pick mine. Runs on bbq gas.

Prob not. Unless it burns oil also.

Originally Posted by Drew

It's usually in the head, not in the cylinders.

You can pick that too. If it smokes going downhill it's valve seals, uphill it's rings.

**crazy man** · 9th August 2012, 19:48

l do all my Valve seat cutting after droping valves in my zxr400 every 4th meeting + l don't trust anyone

**Sketchy_Racer** · 9th August 2012, 19:56

I've arranged to pop in tomorrow to get it done, said he would charge me $20, which aint worth even thinking about making/buying some tools to do the job.

Will let you know how I get on tomorrow.

**jellywrestler** · 9th August 2012, 19:58

Originally Posted by quallman1234

Go on then, tell us a story....

Got him to bore out a cylinder once or twice. No worries.
Hamish got him to port his FXR head. Had no worries!
Nice enough, he has two shops one in petone and one in poruia, so can't be that bad of a guy. Dad's known him for years and i always point people in his direction.

I dropped in two Vincent barrells, one to bore to size and hone to finish and one that just needed a hone. I had already had John Saywell go through them to check that all was OK and John's work is impeccable so Kerry Lindsay charges me the same for both barrells citing the other needed a bit of work but couldn't explain what.
I'm sure he ripped me off so won't be going back there

**Drew** · 9th August 2012, 19:59

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You can pick that too. If it smokes going downhill it's valve seals, uphill it's rings.

Yeah, if it's been thrashed it'll usually be both, if not it's normally the head.

Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer

I've arranged to pop in tomorrow to get it done, said he would charge me $20, which aint worth even thinking about making/buying some tools to do the job.

Will let you know how I get on tomorrow.

His work is good, don't get me wrong. I've just got a chip on my shoulder at footing a silly bill.

**quallman1234** · 9th August 2012, 22:50

Originally Posted by Drew

Yeah, if it's been thrashed it'll usually be both, if not it's normally the head.

His work is good, don't get me wrong. I've just got a chip on my shoulder at footing a silly bill.

I hope you owned the car at the end of it? If not you shouldn't of been paying for the fucken thing.

**gammaguy** · 9th August 2012, 23:37

Originally Posted by Drew

Bullshit Dave, stick to you RG because you clearly know nothing about the common fault of the Mitsi motors.

A 4g63 will need two things in 400,000ks. 4 cambelts as maintainence, and new valve stem seals.

Replacement motor from a running donor car $200. Valve stem seals and seat grind, and a gasket set.$800 would more than cover that work.

So the $2000+ it cost me for a complete rebuild was compltely over the top, for a car worth less than that to begin with.

Me not appreciating his service? I fuckin doubt it.

I will concede however, that the person who took it to him can be a very nasty bitch when she wants to, so it's possible she told him to do it that way. But for him to then chase me for a bill without ever even having spoken to me before is not right.

perhaps he offered her some crack to give him head,and the misunderstanding started from there

it happens...