The length of time some HD's sit on Trade Me

[Crasherfromwayback]

Um, a Nightster was $16.5k brand spankers, a 48 is $18.5k brand spankers and they are 10999 US. And our dollar has never been stronger against the USD (well since the 60's)

God knows what a 72 will be. Importers set the prices based purely on what they can gouge out of their customers. I know that you dont set the prices but they have not by any stretch of the word "come back"


.......said the frustrated would-be Sportster owner. also, buy my scooter

I can tell you what a new 72 will cost ya mate. Got two here now. And I was meaning what people are asking for second hand units privately...more so big blocks. Sporty's have been pretty much the same price for years. Although a lot of people don't know you can buy a brand spanker for $12995.00, and ask nearly that for an old dunger.

[James Deuce]

A bit like the folk that use them really..........

Which is probably the real issue.

[FROSTY:Me]

Theres a couple of other factors in play too. Pure plain n simple shit happens factor. You'll have a bike you think will never sell in a month of sundays but need the showroom full. It sells as it rolls out of the container. Another bike that ticks all the boxes and has been really desireable will sit for months on end.
Theres also the "internet affect' That bike might be a total little honey but because its sat for a month it shows on Trade me etc as an old listing.Potential buyers start to wonder whats wrong with the bike.

A seller who can predict the bike market with apsolute certainty would be a millionaire by now.

Heck I do this stuff for a living and can't predict it. What chance does a private seller have?

That said. I agree 100% with a comment earlier. All the "bling" parts you add to your bike for your personal enjoyment add at best little and at worst NOTHING to the value of the bike. The best you can hope for is that it might give your bike an edge over a factory bike.
I recommended a few months back that as long as it does not make the bike unsafe that Maha would have been better served removing the flash suspenders from his bike and refit the factory stuff.
Fact is in a lot of cases it will have the oposite effect.

[brp]

Maybe its just folk paying heaps for their hog in the first place and human nature being what it is cannot bare to lose money so list at an unrealistic price.

Smile at the prices being all over the place on TM like the 2007 1584 superglide low km's for 15k and then the dreamer with a 96 dyna with 80k for 18k

Think way over priced hogs when compared with what you get with a clubsport or xr8 for same money - rather drop 16k on a V8 - "Now where can I get the 16k harley for 8k"

[scumdog]

Maybe its just folk paying heaps for their hog in the first place and human nature being what it is cannot bare to lose money so list at an unrealistic price.


Think way over priced hogs when compared with what you get with a clubsport or xr8 for same money - rather drop 16k on a V8 - "Now where can I get the 16k harley for 8k"

Sorta like how the owner of a brand new Clubbie or XR8 pays heaps in the first place - then loses a bucket of dosh when they go to sell it??

[brp]

Yeah only difference is Clubbie and XR8 owners more realistic with second-hand pricing in the main ......

[scumdog]

Yeah only difference is Clubbie and XR8 owners more realistic with second-hand pricing in the main ......

Which is exactly why I'll never buy a brand new car of any sort.

[The Lone Rider]

Been a few Harleys I've looked at lately, around the 10K mark.

Older models, yes.


I still have my eye and hopes for an 84 soft tail with the apes and factory flame paint. occasionally come across one, but always when I don't have the cash

[st00ji]

Each to their own but I'm the opposite, I bought a Ducati off a dealer for 10K and 3 years later could not get 6.6....swapped it for a Thruxton which I sold for over 7K.... now running around on a 30 year old BMW every day I got for $1100.00.

I would never buy a late model bike again...especially from a shop. I've got two other old bikes and they are going up in value....that I like.

My favourite Harley TM add is :
1972 and 60K...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-506806197.htm

i love people that take the complete opposite of the reality from the viewed / watcher stats. 99.9% of watchers are not buyers, and 30k views just means 30k people have come to shake their heads in disbelief at the dreams of the seller.

it does boggle the mind, and really its not limited to HDs or even bikes. pretty much every category has its dreamers... just the other day wife and i were looking for one of those fancy boxes with a harddrive in that lets you record live TV like mysky, and watch your digital medias etc. found one we liked on TM, but ended up buying a newer version for $200 less from a retail outlet. i mean seriously! makes you want to reach through the internet somehow to give people a bit of a slap and a good shake.

[Road kill]

Been a few Harleys I've looked at lately, around the 10K mark.

Older models, yes.


I still have my eye and hopes for an 84 soft tail with the apes and factory flame paint. occasionally come across one, but always when I don't have the cash

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-539953237.htm
Looked at this ?
tthe perfect example of,,,, "ya' dreamin' mate".
Over 12 months on TM an the guy still hasn't worked out you can buy a tidy 92 for $10,000 even though there are three at that price or less listed on TM right now.

[caspernz]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-539953237.htm
Looked at this ?
tthe perfect example of,,,, "ya' dreamin' mate".
Over 12 months on TM an the guy still hasn't worked out you can buy a tidy 92 for $10,000 even though there are three at that price or less listed on TM right now.

Not even that...what cracks me is the fact it's 25 years old and it's claimed to be sitting on 10000 clicks? Has that bugger ever been warm? Must have been a coffee drinking poser maybe

[scumdog]

"Bike sounds great and handles great too. I think it has a cam in it but can't be sure..." WTF??

Kinda sums it up eh?

Nice enough and it has a twin disc front but it is an evo after all, stopped making them about 26 years ago...

[The Lone Rider]

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you can buy a tidy 92 for $10,000 even though there are three at that price or less listed on TM right now.

All Harleys currently listed for asking price under $10K are sportsters, one 86 FXRS, and one 92 FXRS

Everything else non sportster is "Starting price" $8550 and up.



Which would suggest you can get a larger harley for 10K... but not often.



I didnt think the 87FXR for 10500 was to bad - though I'm sure you show up with 8500 cash and it'd be sold to you. Don't like the exhaust, and the amount of effort I'd have to put in it to be satisfied with riding it.



New Harleys are pricey. I got sales quotes from a friend who works at Victory Of Mesa and even when you convert to NZD and add in $2K for shipping over here and licensing, the price differences for a new Harley here to one over there (with said conversions and etc) they cost a minimum of $5K more... but up to about $15K more.

Ps. tom... I think he's trying to say he's had a non factory "lumpy" cam put in. And the Evolution motor has been made until 3 and a bit years ago.

[scumdog]

Ps. tom... I think he's trying to say he's had a non factory "lumpy" cam put in. And the Evolution motor has been made until 3 and a bit years ago.

I realised what he meant - only he said "thinks" it has a cam, easy to say but can be hard to disprove - often a 'selling' tactic.

And those Evos you mentioned -they wouldn't have been used in any H-D off the production line I guess - would they??

[The Lone Rider]

The last evolution motor to be put in a harley davidson off of the production line was in 2000.

I missed 10 years. Namely, the 3rd digit in the year. (I was thinking it was 2003)