Operation Mataki - SH75 to Akaroa

[rastuscat]

Why would you guys need to be told that someone dropped their bike and got a little bit hurt but was OK to get home and to a doctor? If it's a single vehicle incident, not resulting in public damage, there is no point n.

Road works to improve unsafe roads are prioritized by roading authorities based to a large extent on crash reports. If a crash happens at a bend unsafe due to bad camber but isn't reported, it doesn't get counted.

If a dozen bikers come off at different times on the same bend but none get reported, the bend will stay exactly the same.

Its a problem with the system. Unreported crashes dont officially exist.

On the other hand, like I said above, I see why they dont get reported. No legal obligation to report in most cases, and bad stuff might happen.

Shame really.

[BoristheBiter]

Road works to improve unsafe roads are prioritized by roading authorities based to a large extent on crash reports. If a crash happens at a bend unsafe due to bad camber but isn't reported, it doesn't get counted.

If a dozen bikers come off at different times on the same bend but none get reported, the bend will stay exactly the same.

Its a problem with the system. Unreported crashes dont officially exist.

On the other hand, like I said above, I see why they dont get reported. No legal obligation to report in most cases, and bad stuff might happen.

Shame really.

I always thought you had to report an non-injury accident within 48hrs.
You learn something everyday.

[SPman]

Yup.

I can understand someone coming off and not reporting it though. Why would ya, when you'd probably get charged with Careless?

Perhaps we should take a leaf out of aviation's book and have a "no blame" stance on investigating accidents - particularly non or minor injury accidents...or should that be "investigating accidents without a view to prosecuting the fuck out of everybody", which seems to have become the norm these days.
Perhaps, then, people would not be so ...."shy" about reporting same.

[Akzle]

Perhaps we should take a leaf out of aviation's book and have a "no blame" stance on investigating accidents - particularly non or minor injury accidents...or should that be "investigating accidents without a view to prosecuting the fuck out of everybody", which seems to have become the norm these days.
Perhaps, then, people would not be so ...."shy" about reporting same.

logic: GTFO.

[oneofsix]

Perhaps we should take a leaf out of aviation's book and have a "no blame" stance on investigating accidents - particularly non or minor injury accidents...or should that be "investigating accidents without a view to prosecuting the fuck out of everybody", which seems to have become the norm these days.
Perhaps, then, people would not be so ...."shy" about reporting same.

it is about making money without improving road safety not the other way round. Think speed cameras, is it really that dangerous to do 10-20k over the limit on straight road (the only place the cameras will work) compared to that second or twos lack of attention to the road to look at the speedo? You could loose much more than that 20k in the time it took you to look at the speedo and readjust to the situation when you look up. No fault of their own but due to the circumstances they find themselves in the police are conditioned to find human, chargeable, fault. Aviation didn't start to improve until they opened their eyes late last century, ditched the blame game and truly investigate and now aim to correct rather than persecute.

[Subike]

Fuck Im in the shit then,
Failed to report my bike lying down in the middle of the road on sunday.
Injury? um yeah One foot peg, one indicator stalk, one scratched brake lever end...
Reason for accident? Oh the wind!. Blew it over ....but it was on the road!
Personal injury, yup, ripped my jeans picking it up and cut my knee. Band aid needed.
According to post above, I should reported this eh.
Anyways, see you fellas on Sunday for the ride to Little River.
I promise to ask my bike not to fall over in the wind again. OK?


Oh, must add, this is a piss take

[oneofsix]

Fuck Im in the shit then,
Failed to report my bike lying down in the middle of the road on sunday.
Injury? um yeah One foot peg, one indicator stalk, one scratched brake lever end...
Reason for accident? Oh the wind!. Blew it over ....but it was on the road!
Personal injury, yup, ripped my jeans picking it up and cut my knee. Band aid needed.
According to post above, I should reported this eh.
Anyways, see you fellas on Sunday for the ride to Little River.
I promise to ask my bike not to fall over in the wind again. OK?

Hope you claimed your share of the ACC levy

[Berries]

Unreported crashes dont officially exist.

I once got asked if I could provide an analysis of unreported crashes. I wasn't sure where to start.

[Oakie]

I once got asked if I could provide an analysis of unreported crashes. I wasn't sure where to start.

Well ACC were able to say that 600cc plus bikes were more dangerous than smaller bikes even though the CC rating of bikes involved in accidents is not reported on the ACC accident report form so perhaps you need to go and study their methods for collecting unreported information.

[Berries]

No need, I carried out that research


Joke.

[Oakie]

No need, I carried out that research


Joke.

Wow. Had me going there for a second!

[Berries]

Come on, I used the term research. That should have been a give away.

[Oakie]

Come on, I used the term research. That should have been a give away.

Ah, true. I must be tired.

[AllanB]

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?

If you fall off your motorcycle and don't report it does anyone ever know?

[Akzle]

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?

If you fall off your motorcycle and don't report it does anyone ever know?

if a man talks in the forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?