18 months on your Restricted no matter your age and Basic Handling from 1 November

[Surferdave]

Owch...me in similar situation, but have been on KB long enough to know a reaction like this will..........owch

Yeah I apologise to all those sincere folk that read and interact with this forum in a non trolling way. I have been reading this forum for a good couple of years now and amongst the gems, from what seem to be quite decent folk, I'm amazed at some of (always the same ones) humans (for want of a better word), that are consistant in their negative, ignorant and opinionated remarks, statements and general bullshit they post on here. Rarely have they anything good to say, add or likewise do they start a meaningful thread. I don't suffer fools.

I joined the other day as I had found some legislation relevant to this thread and wanted to pass on such find to all those, irrespective of current experience level, who were in a similar situation with this new Oct 1st law change. I also had a good outcome booking my full today and wanted to share this, as only 5 more days and it's all over maybe. What good did Drews troll do? And his counterparts back up post (outdated wolf??)? Nothing.

So to all those old fart and otherwise "experienced riders" out there who have nothing better to do than rag on newbies or less experienced riders, or those whom you merely perceive to fall into this box of yours, know this:

1. You started out once too and possibly needed help/advice from those who carved the way prior to you at some stage
2. Road knowledge is road knowledge no matter what your wheeling, conditions of road, weather, time of day, volume of traffic etc. If I go too fast round a corner in my tanker it'll roll. If I go too fast round a corner in my SS commy it'll track wide, Landruiser, bike whatever they all handle differently and are thus operated accordingly.
3. Yes there is a problem with absolute shit road users out there, I see it everyday. If you genuinely want to help change things you need to reconsider your approach. Remember; people don't care how much you know untill they know how much you care.

In short if anyone wishes to enter into logical and meaningful discussion about anything with me please do I welcome it. If you've got nothing decent to contribute step the fuck down and leave us adults to continue the conversation, or expect to get ripped a new one via my ceasingly inventive defense mechanism.

Peace is carrying a bigger stick than the other guy and having the brains to never have to use it, so peace ya'll ...I mean it I had a coke and a smile

[Kickaha]

This *thread* went downhill quickly..

It normally does once Drew shows up

[Virago]

You've been learned a lesson, Drew...

[Drew]

Hey Cock Jockey, get off your high horse. I will be test riding bikes from dealers as I'm goin to be looking a duals, tourers, sports and cruisers coz hey guess what? I like fucking bikes! I've been riding for years, marriage made me get a licence, the fzr 250 I own I want to keep and get the most out of it for now as its super tidy and low k's. I booked my FULL moron can't you read? And yes you never used to be allowed untill your time was up, but because of this new law change, they are allowing PRIOR to OCT 1st only. I have done more driving courses than you can poke a stick at, including snow and ice mountain driving and have all the licenses you can get, drive a fuel tanker for a living and you're calling me unsafe? What a self righteous prick. Go fuck your self you ignorant peasant. Not everyone out there is inexperienced like you and gray homo seem to think.

Besides its easy for you to have this attitude, but if the law had changed on you and you went from a couple of months to 14 months bet you would've cried like a little girl.

Hehehe, this is a great response.

There are fuckin shit loads of fucktards out there getting their full and doing just as you intend, but without the experience that you say you have.

No, I am not so self absorbed that I don't recognise the rules are there for me as they are everyone else. I have always said it is too easy to get a lisence in New Zealand. MOST people on our roads are NOT qualified to be in charge of a vehicle, if you drive for a living, you see it every fuckin day.

So don't get all fuckin teary eyed because I lumped you in with the majority, grow a pair and take it like your mamma did last night bitch.

[Drew]

Yeah I apologise to all those sincere folk that read and interact with this forum in a non trolling way. I have been reading this forum for a good couple of years now and amongst the gems, from what seem to be quite decent folk, I'm amazed at some of (always the same ones) humans (for want of a better word), that are consistant in their negative, ignorant and opinionated remarks, statements and general bullshit they post on here. Rarely have they anything good to say, add or likewise do they start a meaningful thread. I don't suffer fools.

I joined the other day as I had found some legislation relevant to this thread and wanted to pass on such find to all those, irrespective of current experience level, who were in a similar situation with this new Oct 1st law change. I also had a good outcome booking my full today and wanted to share this, as only 5 more days and it's all over maybe. What good did Drews troll do? And his counterparts back up post (outdated wolf??)? Nothing.

So to all those old fart and otherwise "experienced riders" out there who have nothing better to do than rag on newbies or less experienced riders, or those whom you merely perceive to fall into this box of yours, know this:

1. You started out once too and possibly needed help/advice from those who carved the way prior to you at some stage
2. Road knowledge is road knowledge no matter what your wheeling, conditions of road, weather, time of day, volume of traffic etc. If I go too fast round a corner in my tanker it'll roll. If I go too fast round a corner in my SS commy it'll track wide, Landruiser, bike whatever they all handle differently and are thus operated accordingly.
3. Yes there is a problem with absolute shit road users out there, I see it everyday. If you genuinely want to help change things you need to reconsider your approach. Remember; people don't care how much you know untill they know how much you care.

In short if anyone wishes to enter into logical and meaningful discussion about anything with me please do I welcome it. If you've got nothing decent to contribute step the fuck down and leave us adults to continue the conversation, or expect to get ripped a new one via my ceasingly inventive defense mechanism.

Peace is carrying a bigger stick than the other guy and having the brains to never have to use it, so peace ya'll ...I mean it I had a coke and a smile

What good? Yeah, none. Pointing out that people who are soon not gonna be deemed capable, are getting in through a loop hole!

Road knowledge is not road knowledge! I really pray you don't end up another victim that thought he could peddle a gixxer thou, but only because it reflects on the rest of us badly. Otherwise I wouldn't give a rats arse really.

[Drew]

It normally does once Drew shows up

I thought I was being pretty good all things considered.

You've been learned a lesson, Drew...

Hahahahaha, he schooled me good.

[davereid]

Go fuck your self you ignorant peasant.

I must spread more rep before giving it to surferdave.

Kiwibiker is typical NZ.

Full of idiots and control freaks who like to be on top of other peoples lives.

[Surferdave]

What good? Yeah, none. Pointing out that people who are soon not gonna be deemed capable, are getting in through a loop hole!

Road knowledge is not road knowledge! I really pray you don't end up another victim that thought he could peddle a gixxer thou, but only because it reflects on the rest of us badly. Otherwise I wouldn't give a rats arse really.

I'd say your a waste of good oxygen but on the contrary if you do have a brain it clearly doesn't get enough oxygen in the first place. I can never go very fast on my bike coz those tears in my eyes are from my nuts dragging behind me.

No need to bring mums into it, you're the type that only a mum could love, so I won't go there. As for me reflecting on you badly HAHA thats funny you do that so well all by your self!

I'm sure the LTSA is very appreciative of you pointing out the flawed licensing system and its a shame they went with LAMS and didn't name it the D.R.E.W system,
Dickheads Riding Every Where!

[Drew]

I'm sure the LTSA is very appreciative of you pointing out the flawed licensing system and its a shame they went with LAMS and didn't name it the D.R.E.W system,
Dickheads Riding Every Where!

Actually, I did give detailed feed back when the systems in place were being reviewed. I did so in constructive ways, explaining my reasons for ideas put faorward.

I wouldn't bother doing such on here, and if you had read two years worth of this place as you say, you would know damned well why.

I have no issue with the LAMS list on the whole, there are a couple bikes on there that shouldn't be, and a few aren't that should be.

You can continue trying to make out I said something I didn't, or you can get over it man. I'm happy either way, if we're gonna start shit slinging proper though, you need some better material. My 13 year old daughter is more offensive than you are.

[Surferdave]

You can continue trying to make out I said something I didn't, or you can get over it man. I'm happy either way, if we're gonna start shit slinging proper though, you need some better material. My 13 year old daughter is more offensive than you are.

FUCK!! The last thing this world needs is homo sapiens like YOU breeding. I would be hanging my head in shame if I had a kid like that. My quip about LAMS went straight over your head...WE'RE not starting anything, I was merely trying to bring some form of intelligence back into this thread. Unfortunately the I.Q. rate dropped far to low when you swung from the trees into this thread that I must concede defeat. There is no reasoning with a sack of shit, all its good at is stinking everything up.

[Drew]

FUCK!! The last thing this world needs is homo sapiens like YOU breeding. I would be hanging my head in shame if I had a kid like that. My quip about LAMS went straight over your head...WE'RE not starting anything, I was merely trying to bring some form of intelligence back into this thread. Unfortunately the I.Q. rate dropped far to low when you swung from the trees into this thread that I must concede defeat. There is no reasoning with a sack of shit, all its good at is stinking everything up.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, yeah, you are bringing the intellect back to this thread big time!

Care to point out just what went over my head? After a re-read I am confident I correctly replied, to point out your sarcasm was way off target. Oh yeah, look up "quip", you're not using it right.

[Parlane]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, yeah, you are bringing the intellect back to this thread big time!

Care to point out just what went over my head? After a re-read I am confident I correctly replied, to point out your sarcasm was way off target. Oh yeah, look up "quip", you're not using it right.

Silly peasant.

[ProTuned]

Bummer that they didnt keep the DDC course running for those already in the system, I've never had any accidents or traffic infringements..YET..

One of the main reasons I need my full, is so that I don't have this stupid restriction about riding at night as I tend to need the bike at night.

[Fast Eddie]

..this stupid restriction about riding at night as I tend to need the bike at night.

are you batman?

[Drew]

Bummer that they didnt keep the DDC course running for those already in the system, I've never had any accidents or traffic infringements..YET..

One of the main reasons I need my full, is so that I don't have this stupid restriction about riding at night as I tend to need the bike at night.

Go into the AA, and apply for an exemption of licence conditions. Then you can ride at all hours.