Can someone tell me specifically why the Hyosungs are bad?

[FJRider]

And they got it so right they haven't changed the design in all that time

They still build Morris Oxfords in India NEW ... using the original british supplied tools and die's ...

It doesn't make it better that nothing was changed since ... and they weren't that great then.

[FJRider]

You're referring to DrunkenMistake again?

Not as such ... such assumptions could be considered rude ...

Everybody wants to buy new. Must be better ... right ... ???

[AllanB]

Hobag were making small engines for Suzuki - pretty sure the 650 is their first big one - obviously based on Suzukis but I do not believe they were actually making SV engines for Suzuki.

[Old Steve]

When I bought my first bike I was budget constrained, so a 2005 (06 registered) Hyosung GV250 met my financial limits. It had 9000 km on the clock and had been let go a little. I did 24,000 km in 20 months on that bike, rides up to 400 + km, comfortable and easily handled (cruiser so the c of g was down low).

Faults? Bad chroming on the 05 and 06 I understand, but I believe it got better.
Indicator switch, I replaced it myself at about 15,000 km.
Replaced the front and rear sprockets and chain at about 13,000 km - think the original owner didn't perform the necessary levels of preventative maintenance on the chain. I fitted a ScottOiler with the new chain and sprockets and by 33,000 km when I sold her I'd only had to adjust the new chain once.
Had the Suzuki Intruder gearbox glitch, you couldn't find neutral with the engine running - I could talk for hours to Suzuki Intruder owners about that gearbox. You turned the engine off, found neutral, then started the engine again.
You couldn't pass anything above 100 km/hr, though I could cruise forever at 120 km/hr.

When looking to move up I was considering the Hyosung ST-7 and the Suzuki Boulevard M50, chose the M50 because it's shaft drive, but they're both very comfortable bikes for a short arse. I think the ST-7 is a little more powerful, 48.4 kW vs 46.5 kW for the M50 and 63.7 Nm vs 62 for the M50 (albeit both are at higher revs for the Hyosung).

Bottom line, would I buy my 2005 GV250 again as a first bike knowing what I know now. Yes, no hesitation. Would I consider a Hyosung ST-7, maybe if the price is right (I got my 2010 M50 with 1900 km on the clock for $9000, you'd probably be looking at just slightly more for a one year old demonstartor ST-7 with similar mileage, so I'd probably go for the M50 again).

[Swoop]

But ... they're cheap ... so people buy them.

Perfect for NZ then...

Amateur.....
PS - you didn't say a good one...!

Hopefully not a typical hyosung rider. She doesn't appear to realise which way you sit on it to ride it.

[ducatilover]

No, it fuckin isn't!

The SV650 motor has featured in one other bike. The Cagiva Raptor.

I type corrected. The riding god has spoken.

They still build Morris Oxfords in India NEW ... using the original british supplied tools and die's ...

It doesn't make it better that nothing was changed since ... and they weren't that great then.

I would happily own one, which means, they're impossibly shite.

[tigertim20]

I think this is a myth that Hyosung are keen to keep alive, trading off the Suzuki name. It's my understanding that Hyosung employed the SV650 engine designer to design them a similar engine.....you can judge for yourself how well they build an engine in comparison to Suzuki......

yeah. My understanding was that Hyosung were making some bits and pieces for Suzuki under contract, then hyosung decided to basically produce a cheaper version of the SV, which is of course the GT650/GT650R. not the same engine at all, but the pre-existing arrangement between hyosung and suzuki made the rumour easy to believe.

[Drew]

yeah. My understanding was that Hyosung were making some bits and pieces for Suzuki under contract, then hyosung decided to basically produce a cheaper version of the SV, which is of course the GT650/GT650R. not the same engine at all, but the pre-existing arrangement between hyosung and suzuki made the rumour easy to believe.

Easy to believe till you look at the bloody things! Some people will believe anything I reckon.

[mossy1200]

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Make: Hyosung
Model: GT650R
Engine size: 650cc
Kilometres: less than 1000km
Year: 2013

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Lams version but 10k.
and the 250 is 8k

same price as a ninja or cbr250 new
Think idd be more into the CBR250 even though its a single cylinder at the same price.


I thought that the hyo was alot cheaper but it seems not and on that note Im not sure why and how they sell so many.

[ducatilover]

I thought that the hyo was alot cheaper but it seems not and on that note Im not sure why and how they sell so many.

They were 5k new when they released the GT250.
8k is way too much for such a basic heap.

[AllanB]

Best PR ever - introduce a new brand onto a market with the story you were making engines for a well respected one.

[KIPS powervalve]

In spite of everything, these bikes are very comfortable. Going from an FZR250 to GT250 is like going from being stuck on a barbed wire fence that keeps trying to kill you, to being put in a nice squishy wingback chair. Unfortunately the Hyo handles like such a chair. Also, they have a propensity for just being a bit stink. I have one and by bro had one. Both had/have problems that are distinct. Mine has carb/fuel delivery/electrical issues (nobody can tell me what is is - engine runs OK when cold or wet until you try to exceed 6000RPM, then it just kind of shits itself) and his one had a short circuit somewhere so he was constantly roll starting it. That blew the CDI and regulator rectifier and cost a bundle to fix. Fortunately, instead of costing almost $1000 for 2 parts in NZ he got them for around $300-400 direct for Korea. And quickly too. Never did find the short