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    Lights! Action!

    what is it with wellington and the lights that don't detect motorcycles?

    three choices:

    1) Hang out in the road until a car shows up (maybe overnight)
    2) Get off the bike and find a crosswalk button pointing in the right direction
    3) Run the red light

    I thought I found a route with decent lights but now I've got one everday, alas; so it's 3 for me, maybe twice a day, since 1) is likely and 2) is not an option.

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    At each intersection there is an induction loop. It looks like a football field made out of slightly shinier tar. Line your engine up over the lines and the lights will work. If you really get stuck, put your side stand down, with the engine running, and rest the sidestand foot on one of those lines.

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-dr...uestion234.htm

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    Activation is via a ground loop.
    Ground loop is a wire running around in a circle(normally rectangle) which is the shape you often see in the ground before the intersection.
    It uses detection of of metal to activate a small change in the circuit to know you are there.
    Your bike having a big distance from engine to ground isnt helping along with the small metal mass of it being a bike.
    If your going over the ground loop and parking in front of it it wont know your waiting.
    This is ok if a car pulls in behind you.

    Failing that do some donuts around the loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    At each intersection there is an induction loop. It looks like a football field made out of slightly shinier tar. Line your engine up over the lines and the lights will work. If you really get stuck, put your side stand down, with the engine running, and rest the sidestand foot on one of those lines.

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-dr...uestion234.htm
    Wheres that intersection.
    the ground loops I have trouble with in welly are normally a single loop shape half the size of a car and often are to far back from the intersection for a bike that rides over it and stops.
    Never thought about side stand. Must try that. Sounds easier than lying a MT-01 on its side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Activation is via a ground loop.
    Ground loop is a wire running around in a circle(normally rectangle) which is the shape you often see in the ground before the intersection.
    It uses detection of of metal to activate a small change in the circuit to know you are there.
    Your bike having a big distance from engine to ground isnt helping along with the small metal mass of it being a bike.
    If your going over the ground loop and parking in front of it it wont know your waiting.
    This is ok if a car pulls in behind you.

    Failing that do some donuts around the loop.
    Motorists in Auckland are fairly agressive. If you just park the bike well forward they tend to sneak up to about paint thickness behind your number plate - end of problem! (This is not a joke; it is what I do fairly often now).

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    That one's American.
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    If you let the Council know they'll turn the gain up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Your bike having a big distance from engine to ground isnt helping along with the small metal mass of it being a bike.
    Common problem, with dirt bikes in particular. There's special wee magnets you can buy that utterly fail to fix the problem, so don't bother with them. The sidestand thing works sometimes, but more to the point the bloody things should work, they're just not installed or adjusted right. If you're having ongoing issues with one set call the council, they orta be onto it.

    Oh, yeah, I've laid the bike down on 'em before, works but some bikes are a bit of a handfull to do that. Just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Common problem, with dirt bikes in particular. There's special wee magnets you can buy that utterly fail to fix the problem, so don't bother with them. The sidestand thing works sometimes, but more to the point the bloody things should work, they're just not installed or adjusted right. If you're having ongoing issues with one set call the council, they orta be onto it.

    Oh, yeah, I've laid the bike down on 'em before, works but some bikes are a bit of a handfull to do that. Just sayin.
    Wasn't there a meme about nobody knowing how magnets work? Guess thats how they manage to make such a useless product sellable.

    Best bet is probably a steel bashplate, gives a big steel surface area close to the ground. Or slip some thin steel plate into your boot soles maybe. Or just get the council to fix it up or at least clarify your legal options; wasn't there some absurd waiting period after which you could run the red?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Wasn't there a meme about nobody knowing how magnets work? Guess thats how they manage to make such a useless product sellable.

    Best bet is probably a steel bashplate, gives a big steel surface area close to the ground. Or slip some thin steel plate into your boot soles maybe. Or just get the council to fix it up or at least clarify your legal options; wasn't there some absurd waiting period after which you could run the red?
    3 phases. It would be fun both proving or disproving that you waited three phases, in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    3 phases. It would be fun both proving or disproving that you waited three phases, in court.
    I don't get it. The lights won't change - so how can you wait through three phases if the lights won't change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    I don't get it. The lights won't change - so how can you wait through three phases if the lights won't change?

    They are talking about when you are at a green arrow turn only. The straight throughs cycle but the turn arrow wont light up if no vehicles are in the turning lane.
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    Wow this whole time I thought the sensors were weight related. All those times spent balancing all the weight on the middle of the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    They are talking about when you are at a green arrow turn only. The straight throughs cycle but the turn arrow wont light up if no vehicles are in the turning lane.
    If there are no vehicles and the phases are changing you can turn when your straight through has a green anyway. Waiting 3 phases law sounds pretty retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    If there are no vehicles and the phases are changing you can turn when your straight through has a green anyway. Waiting 3 phases law sounds pretty retarded.
    i don't want to wait 3 phases.. that's a long time hanging out in the road waiting for someone to pile into my backside.

    i'll see if i can spot the coils tomorrow. I don't recall them being so obvious.

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