Spring's here, time to die

[Banditbandit]

Also...could you tell me why GP racers (maybe they know fuck all) would rather part company with the bikes than stay with them into a wall? Maybe they also think they'll stop quicker on their arses?

Also...could you please tell me how at around 100kph in a straight line you'll put your bike down really quickly?

Fuck putting the bike down ... just get off ... let go of the bars and push off with your feet ... DON'T put your hands down to try to stop the fall ...

(A choice between dying and staying with the beloved bike I will choose life - much as it would pain me to wreck a bike ...)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck putting the bike down ... just get off ... let go of the bars and push off with your feet ... DON'T put your hands down to try to stop the fall ...

(A choice between dying and staying with the beloved bike I will choose life - much as it would pain me to wreck a bike ...)

lol. Brave cunt! Not my preferred way of parting company (and believe me when I say there ain't many ways I haven't done)...but each to their own!

[Banditbandit]

lol. Brave cunt! Not my preferred way of parting company (and believe me when I say there ain't many ways I haven't done)...but each to their own!

Not that brave - I've never actually had to do it ... I think in the heat of the moment it would not happen that way ...

[baffa]

Haha.

Moody. Crasher, I'm not gonna pretend to know more about bikes than you, but I can gaurantee you can stop quicker on the bike than you can on your ass. Racers would drop their bikes because they dont have ABS, and they are pushing to the point where they come off the bike as a matter of course. You wouldnt see Rossie realising hes outbraked himself and throwing himself off the bike, he would run wide or straight off the track. Ive seen them do it.

If I was doing 100 kph and I came round a corner to see a turned over truck in front of me, Id rather hit it on the bike, both brakes locked, at 30kph, than slide along the ground and hit it doing double that.

[baffa]

Since non ABS can stop faster than ABS, your logic is just as stupid as you think CFWB's is.

Ever tried to get off a fast moving, upright bike? It's not that easy, and a fuck load more likely to end badly for the rider than the more gentle approach of the bike sliding out from under. I have done both, so you're gonna struggle to argue with me on that score by the way.

If you want to drop the bike, why would you lock the wheels and go down with the bike? I dont fancy sliding with the bike, so the argument for bikes without abs making dropping them easier doesnt make sense to me.

Your first sentance makes no sence to my frazzled brain either, if that helps.

[Drew]

If you want to drop the bike, why would you lock the wheels and go down with the bike? I dont fancy sliding with the bike, so the argument for bikes without abs making dropping them easier doesnt make sense to me.

Your first sentance makes no sence to my frazzled brain either, if that helps.

Trust the voices of experience, getting off a bike is best done with the rear wheel locked up to pitch it sideways. Doing it 'on the fly' results in landing akwardly, on head/shoulder/hands/knees. Stepping the rear out lands bum first, sets up for easy pushing away the bike, and all general goodness comparitively.

ABS decreases total braking force. Does that compute?

[Crasherfromwayback]

. You wouldnt see Rossie realising hes outbraked himself and throwing himself off the bike, he would run wide or straight off the track.

If I was doing 100 kph and I came round a corner to see a turned over truck in front of me, Id rather hit it on the bike, both brakes locked, at 30kph, than slide along the ground and hit it doing double that.

You will when he's heading towards a wall and not enough distance to stop in. Trust me.

And again...each to their own. But here's how quickly a body can stop on the deck.

[scumdog]

And people say we need A.T.G.A.T.T.

[baffa]

Wasnt actually arguing for or against ABS btw, I am kinda anti ABS, for reasons ive stated before, my issue was that the argument of abs making it difficult to drop the bike, simply because I disagree that dropping the bike is the best option.

Re Drew, I know it decreases total braking force, however at the limit it uses brakes more effectively than the layman.
Again Im happy to go without ABS, but each to his own.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, however at the limit it uses brakes more effectively than the layman.
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Not even the layman. As has been proven time and time again...abs will stop you in a shorter space of time unless you're a braking God. Even then sometimes!

[Drew]

Not even the layman. As has been proven time and time again...abs will stop you in a shorter space of time unless you're a braking God. Even then sometimes!

Really?

Seems fucked up to me, I'll have to test ABS versus non personally before I believe it, and I'm certainly no braking god.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Really?

Seems fucked up to me, I'll have to test ABS versus non personally before I believe it, and I'm certainly no braking god.

Yeah. And I used to think I was!

[bogan]

You will when he's heading towards a wall and not enough distance to stop in. Trust me.

And again...each to their own. But here's how quickly a body can stop on the deck.

He was doing about 50k (if that) to my eye, and took about 20m to stop going uphil, even a harley should be able to haul up a bit quicker at that speed. And things tend to stop a lot quicker when they can plow in sideways, on tarmac that isn't the case.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He was doing about 50k (if that) to my eye, and took about 20m to stop going uphil, even a harley should be able to haul up a bit quicker at that speed. And things tend to stop a lot quicker when they can plow in sideways, on tarmac that isn't the case.

He was going at least 150 wannit e? Bet that's what he told his mates anyway. And I only put that there for a laff at him mate.

But again...each to their own! I'd still far rather scrub off as much speed as poss then ditch it before impact if I knew I wasn't going to stop in time!

[bogan]

He was going at least 150 wannit e? Bet that's what he told his mates anyway. And I only put that there for a laff at him mate.

But again...each to their own! I'd still far rather scrub off as much speed as poss then ditch it before impact if I knew I wasn't going to stop in time!

Yeh, laff achieved.

Well with the amount of time I've spent on mine, I'd probly want to slow her down and then jump in front to cushion the blow

It may be that the ditching theory is based around the non-linear (wrt distance) deceleration, on or off the bike in the last 5m you're going to drop a lot more speed than the preceding 5m, so it might look like people slow down quicker once they have slowed enough to bail out, but in fact they would have stopped even sooner had they stayed on.