Spring's here, time to die

**R-Soul** · 13th December 2012, 14:40

Originally Posted by bogan

Modern microcontrollers can do a lot with memory and modelling, the obvious options are; learning the slip ratios during normal riding, learning the slip ratios and adjusting accordingly during a lock up. The later is probably the way to go, you might have a very large slip to begin with, then pulse around the slip value giving the most grip.
A "buffer of safety" is perhaps a misnomer, as when ABS activates the safest option is to stop the bike as quick as possible, adding extra slip to make the slip easier to detect is more of a safety compromise.

Maybe more a"buffer of useability" than a buffer of safety, although it would probably not be safe to have the ABs going off when not needed.

**imdying** · 13th December 2012, 14:41

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

As long as I always have the option of locking a wheel or wheels up I don't give a shit what the future brings. I don't do fluro vests either.

At 250km/hr?

/edit: Not a loaded question either Pete!

**R-Soul** · 13th December 2012, 14:46

Originally Posted by MrKiwi

Most of the riding public are not experienced racers (and I doubt even experienced racers can do what you claim), so when you need to brake hard and keep rolling ABS helps. It's not the saviour and can't counter for stupid, but it is something for riding on tarmac that I think riders should choose to have, in my opinion.

I am not claiming this - this is what I have heard experienced track racers claim on the grapevine. I do not profess to be able to outbrake ABS myself. And even experienced riding gods can end up freezing in a surprise life threatening situation where they forget to pulse brakes or just lock brakes up without thinking further. So I am all for having ABS available on all bikes - at least for road riding.

**Brian d marge** · 13th December 2012, 14:46

Royal Enfield had all of this years ago

brake by wire check

pulsing brakes , on off on off check ( probably oval drum again )

controlled lever pressure , check ( you could have the lever back to the bars and it wouldnt make a difference)

Fuzzy logic , check , fuzzier the more I drank

Mehhh,,,, modern tech has a lot of catching up to do

Stephen

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th December 2012, 14:54

Originally Posted by imdying

At 250km/hr?

/edit: Not a loaded question either Pete!

Now days if I was to be doing 250kph I'd be on a race track. Not that I do much of that anymore. Too fat for my leathers now. But yeah...I'd still want the option.

**imdying** · 13th December 2012, 14:57

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Now days if I was to be doing 250kph I'd be on a race track. Not that I do much of that anymore. Too fat for my leathers now. But yeah...I'd still want the option.

What advantage would you get from locking up the front at 250km/hr?

/edit: Of course, on the track

**Drew** · 13th December 2012, 15:03

Fuck this thread is boring now.

It's summer, so most of us should already be dead I think.

**Maha** · 13th December 2012, 15:14

Originally Posted by jrandom

Let's get out there, folks. Those statistics aren't going to write themselves.

Now, I don't know about all y'all, but the solar panel on top of my Shoei that's connected directly to my testicles is just going wild. Time to wrap those testicles around the throttle and show the nearest reinforced concrete power pole or oncoming station wagon who's boss.

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This should be good!