Spring's here, time to die

[Deano]

I And even experienced riding gods can end up freezing in a surprise life threatening situation where they forget to pulse brakes or just lock brakes up without thinking further.

Pulsing brakes ?

Who does/needs to do this on a modern bike ?

If I need to emergency brake, or brake for a corner on the track/or road, I never pulse the brake. They go on as hard as possible without locking. Pulsing would decrease your braking distance.

Have I misunderstood your comment

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pulsing brakes ?

Who does/needs to do this on a modern bike ?

If I need to emergency brake, or brake for a corner on the track/or road, I never pulse the brake. They go on as hard as possible without locking. Pulsing would decrease your braking distance.

Have I misunderstood your comment

No. There's a shitload of wank on the internet about such practices. And it's just that. Next time you see a close up of Lorenzo's front brake lever when he's sailing past Rossi on the picks...see if he's 'pulsing' it! Woteva!!!

[roogazza]

Pulsing brakes ?

Who does/needs to do this on a modern bike ?

If I need to emergency brake, or brake for a corner on the track/or road, I never pulse the brake. They go on as hard as possible without locking. Pulsing would decrease your braking distance.

Have I misunderstood your comment

No. There's a shitload of wank on the internet about such practices. And it's just that. Next time you see a close up of Lorenzo's front brake lever when he's sailing past Rossi on the picks...see if he's 'pulsing' it! Woteva!!!

This 'pulsing' some are talking about(but probably don't understand?) is an effect given by the act of the brake being released slightly and then reapplied ?
In the olden days I used to teach Policemen to stop their cars as fast as possible using what was called at the time, Cadence Braking. If on the initial application the wheels locked, the pedal was released slightly to be reapplied, sometimes a few times if not done right. I'm guessing this could be construed as 'pulsing' ?
Probably most noticeable in cars than bikes and easier to do too.

Sort of like a human ABS if you like.

[tri boy]

Cadence braking works well on unsealed roads, especially in cars. +1 with roogazza.
It was a test that I had to pass to gain safety endorsements on mine sites.
The braking distance is reduced quite substantially if done right.
Bikes...........gravel only also. MHO

[_Shrek_]

You should be getting ABS... IMHO...

Y???

[Brian d marge]

I just stick me brakes on .... The bike stops ,,funny that

Stephen

[willytheekid]

Hmmm...I may need to look into this..."braking" thing you all speak of



...I wouldn't have to cleen the bike so often!

[imdying]

Cadence braking is for cars, and old ones at that.

[Edbear]

Y???

Dunno, just seemed like a good idea at the time...

[_Shrek_]

Dunno, just seemed like a good idea at the time...

you need new bait

[Edbear]

you need new bait

Yeah, just thought I'd use up the last of the old stuff. Obviously too old by now...

[caspernz]

Cadence braking is for cars, and old ones at that.

Cadence braking is something we were taught before our trucks had ABS. Yes it worked, but it required training and practice to get it right. Mind you, using ABS properly also requires training and practice.

So the end result is still the same, drive/ride like a squid and you'll still crash like one

[PrincessBandit]

I had to go onto good old wikipedia to look up "cadence braking". It is described there as:

"Cadence braking is supposed to maximise the time for the driver to steer around the obstacle ahead, as it allows him to steer while slowing. It needs to be learned and practiced. For most drivers of modern cars, it has been entirely superseded by ABS, however it is still a valuable skill for drivers of non-ABS equipped vehicles such as classic cars or economy cars.
Maximum braking force is obtained when there is approximately 10%-20% slippage between the braked wheel's rotational speed and the road surface.[1] Beyond this point, rolling grip diminishes rapidly and sliding friction provides a greater proportion of the force that slows the vehicle. Due to local heating and melting of the tyres, the sliding friction can be very low. When braking at, or beyond, the peak braking force the steering is ineffective since the grip of the tyre is entirely consumed in braking the vehicle.
Cadence braking involves pumping the brake pedal fairly rapidly but deliberately, to make the wheels lock and unlock. It can be approximated by the following steps:" (as you can see I haven't copy/pasted the whole thing).

I love the reference to "economy cars". I vaguely remember Dad teaching me how to do that back in the day, in the Mark II Cortina. Never needed to do it though in all the years i've been driving. Nowadays I don't have an "economy car" lol.

[misterO]

It is said that a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.

This link takes you to a compilation of videos of motorbike accidents. They were filmed by Go Pro cameras on bikes and dash cams in cars. Most of the errors in judgement seems to come from riders themselves- this video should be required viewing before you get a motorcycle license. One thing to take from all this might be: the car always wins. Every. Time. Ignore the stupidity of the first thirty seconds or so because what follows is well over an hour of various crashes from around the world coming at about one every ten seconds. Feel like getting your learn on? Watch this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5aoT1Nwo7UI

[tri boy]

Cadence braking is for cars, and old ones at that.

Not entirely true.
Try pulling up a Landcruiser with a load of face shovel teeth in the tray, and towing a lincoln 400AS mobile welder, while you desend off the messa, and a shift boss in his wagon pulls out in front of you.