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**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 16:59

I've sort of based my entire skill set around managing, preparing for, and handling the limits of traction. I'm not sure how I feel about ABS and traction control.

I use these limits as a sort of punctuation in my riding style, when I brake hard in an emergency situation, feeling the front start to lock is a perfect point for me to let off the brakes and crank the bike over. Feeling the back start to kick out, is when I start to adjust my body weight and throttle position.

Hard to explain, but I feel like interfering with these old processes is a recipe for trouble.

It's kind of like a power user trying to go from XP to windows 8, all the extra features to 'help' are just alien and land you in doo doo.

I can see this being useful for Cruisers and Tourers that have a lower center of gravity, a longer wheelbase, and an aging rider who may or may not have any appreciation of the concepts of physics

**jrandom** · 6th December 2012, 17:21

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

Cruisers and Tourers that have a lower center of gravity, a longer wheelbase, and an aging rider who may or may not have any appreciation of the concepts of physics

Stop talking about me, cunt, I'm right here.

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 17:40

Originally Posted by jrandom

Stop talking about me, cunt, I'm right here.

Scorpios actually handle pretty damned well, showed my friends on sprot bikes a clean set of heels.

**Road kill** · 6th December 2012, 17:52

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I've sort of based my entire skill set around managing, preparing for, and handling the limits of traction. I'm not sure how I feel about ABS and traction control.

I use these limits as a sort of punctuation in my riding style, when I brake hard in an emergency situation, feeling the front start to lock is a perfect point for me to let off the brakes and crank the bike over. Feeling the back start to kick out, is when I start to adjust my body weight and throttle position.

Hard to explain, but I feel like interfering with these old processes is a recipe for trouble.

It's kind of like a power user trying to go from XP to windows 8, all the extra features to 'help' are just alien and land you in doo doo.

I can see this being useful for Cruisers and Tourers that have a lower center of gravity, a longer wheelbase, and an aging rider who may or may not have any appreciation of the concepts of physics

Ah ha ha ha ha ha,,,fuck I needed that.

**jrandom** · 6th December 2012, 17:56

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

Scorpios actually handle pretty damned well

I love you, man.

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 18:01

Originally Posted by Road kill

Ah ha ha ha ha ha,,,fuck I needed that.

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**Berries** · 6th December 2012, 18:08

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

So the NZTA says that on a motorcycle you're 23 times more likely to get pwned than a cager over the same distance.

Originally Posted by oneofsix

23 times now, any advances on 23? Do I here 30?

After reading the latest Australian research in to barrier treatment and motorbikes today I'll raise you to 34 -

Originally Posted by Austroads Research Report

Motorcyclists are vulnerable road users because they do not have the protective structural cage, or advanced restraints, which are commonplace in both passenger and heavy vehicles (Gabler 2007). A major part of the rider vulnerability stems from the riders’ bodies absorbing a significant part of the deceleration energy, thus resulting in severe injuries during high speed impact. Grzebieta et al. (2011) also state on the basis of police reports the main factors were speeding, alcohol and drugs. The main single factor was speeding or inappropriate speed. In this context, Jama et al. 2010 reported a US estimate that the fatality risk for motorcyclists was 34 times greater than for vehicle occupants, after adjusting for distance travelled.

**FJRider** · 6th December 2012, 18:15

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

Scorpios actually handle pretty damned well, showed my friends on sprot bikes a clean set of heels.

Owning and riding a sprot bike doesn't make you a good rider. And your post will have more to do with the lack of ability of said sprot bike riders ... than the ability of the Scorpio ...

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 18:20

Originally Posted by FJRider

Owning and riding a sprot bike doesn't make you a good rider. And your post will have more to do with the lack of ability of said sprot bike riders ... than the ability of the Scorpio ...

A Scorpio with good rubber handles really well. I'm sure they didn't have your god-like abilities, but one of them was a fairly successful F3 racer.

I'd be quite glad to stack it up against an FJ1200 on a tight road.

**newbould** · 6th December 2012, 18:35

When did they start putting abs on scorps? Must go back to one.

**FJRider** · 6th December 2012, 18:56

Originally Posted by newbould

When did they start putting abs on scorps? Must go back to one.

They put them on FJ1200's ...

**FJRider** · 6th December 2012, 19:03

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

A Scorpio with good rubber handles really well. I'm sure they didn't have your god-like abilities, but one of them was a fairly successful F3 racer.

I'd be quite glad to stack it up against an FJ1200 on a tight road.

My abilities are only superhuman ...

.. I aspire to god-like ...

And it's like trying to compare a mini with a mack. (both with successful history of being raced ... but in different classes)