Spring's here, time to die

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th December 2012, 17:22

Originally Posted by bogan

Well with the amount of time I've spent on mine, I'd probly want to slow her down and then jump in front to cushion the blow

It may be that the ditching theory is based around the non-linear (wrt distance) deceleration, on or off the bike in the last 5m you're going to drop a lot more speed than the preceding 5m, so it might look like people slow down quicker once they have slowed enough to bail out, but in fact they would have stopped even sooner had they stayed on.

I can understand that mate!

Now this bit. Don't go getting all clever and show me the bloody true facts. I'm trying to win an argument FFS.

**BoristheBiter** · 10th December 2012, 17:25

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Not that brave - I've never actually had to do it ... I think in the heat of the moment it would not happen that way ...

It is best preformed whilst flying through the air thinking "there is no way i am going to hit the landing on that ramp so I'll take my chances".

as demonstrated below.
http://www.floridaseries.com/pics/pi...rd13_crash.jpg

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th December 2012, 17:45

Originally Posted by bogan

Yeh, laff achieved.

.

Would you have parted company with this?

**bogan** · 10th December 2012, 18:00

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Would you have parted company with this?

Well, ignoring the fact I would almost have certainly parted company well before that corner (flipping it on the start line being the more likely option) yes, and not just cos it looked really difficult to keep upright regardless of design. The best option there would have been to bin it in the gravel, as side down on grass or gravel offers more stopping power. But you're clutching at straws if thats going to win you an argument

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th December 2012, 18:02

Originally Posted by bogan

(flipping it on the start line being the more likely option)

But you're clutching at straws if thats going to win you an argument

Nah...cause the bloody homo's have launch control. As gay as abs you know!

So? I'm allowed.

**bogan** · 10th December 2012, 18:11

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Nah...cause the bloody homo's have launch control. As gay as abs you know!

So? I'm allowed.

Pfffft, that would nor more stop me coming off than their traction control would, probably do about as much good as ABS on the road tbh, helpful but not womble-proof.

Then I'm but forced to agree with you and go remove all ABS electrickery from my vehicles, phew, that was quick

And since nothing new has any class, ABS is unlikely to make it into my shed anytime soon.

**MrKiwi** · 10th December 2012, 18:20

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Would you have parted company with this?

Ummm, why would you compare this on a race track at high speed way above anything we can do legally on the road with a discussion about ABS on the road? Not comparing apples with apples in my view.

**MrKiwi** · 10th December 2012, 18:22

Originally Posted by Drew;1130446625[B

]Since non ABS can stop faster than ABS,[/B] your logic is just as stupid as you think CFWB's is.

Ever tried to get off a fast moving, upright bike? It's not that easy, and a fuck load more likely to end badly for the rider than the more gentle approach of the bike sliding out from under. I have done both, so you're gonna struggle to argue with me on that score by the way.

non ABS stopping faster than ABS - not likely!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th December 2012, 18:51

Originally Posted by MrKiwi

Ummm, why would you compare this on a race track at high speed way above anything we can do legally on the road with a discussion about ABS on the road? Not comparing apples with apples in my view.

Because it matters not a flying fuck where you are when you're about to die. And check the film again. Doubt he'd be doing anymore than 100kph when he went off track.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th December 2012, 19:12

Originally Posted by MrKiwi

Ummm, why would you compare this on a race track at high speed way above anything we can do legally on the road with a discussion about ABS on the road? Not comparing apples with apples in my view.

And what about this one? Would you have ridden into the guy at 90% (torpedo style), kept it upright with your abs and upon impact with the bales flipped over and down to the railway lines below and fucked yourself up...or do as I did...and put it down to avoid a & b?

Fuck it...can't upload that type of film file....

**MrKiwi** · 10th December 2012, 20:27

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

And what about this one? Would you have ridden into the guy at 90% (torpedo style), kept it upright with your abs and upon impact with the bales flipped over and down to the railway lines below and fucked yourself up...or do as I did...and put it down to avoid a & b?

Fuck it...can't upload that type of film file....

just because I would be on a bike with ABS doesn't mean I'm not prepared to drop it. You still can. You still gotta use your brain. It is the incremental improvement ABS brings. Trying to argue we are saying it is the saviour of stupidity is not going to work as I'm not saying that. You can't help stupid...

**MrKiwi** · 10th December 2012, 20:28

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Because it matters not a flying fuck where you are when you're about to die. And check the film again. Doubt he'd be doing anymore than 100kph when he went off track.

the road is not a race track so I would be riding differently!