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    Can I avoid the registration ripoff by getting a dealer plate?

    I would have to register as a vehicle trader, but since I would be the worst "dealer" in the world because I can't ever sell for more than I buy for, it might work out?

    just an idle thought.....

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/regi...rs.html#status
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    This thread is going to be so full of win, I can just tell for some reason.

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    Good thinking!!

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    There are some very specific rules for usage of dealer plates. e.g. no personal use of vehicle.

    You might get away with it, the way some people got away with registering their vehicles as Hearses for a while.

    But it's not a "loophole" that guarantees what you want.
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    Reminds me of when I was in Ireland and the CEO of Ryan Air bought a taxi so he could use the bus/taxi lanes around Dublin...he got away with it as he had it set up with a meter and would stop from time to time to pick up punters.....
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    ...why pay anything for any licence or "registration"?
    you'd have to be "self employed" - contract with your current boss to be a contractor, then find some other work to do, claim all your KMs, coffee, tea, milo, power bill, internet and phone etc.
    if you play the game right, the IRD pay you, every year.

    (not, of course, that i'd advocate using the crime/taxation system in this way.)


    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    You might get away with it, the way some people got away with registering their vehicles as Hearses for a while.

    But it's not a "loophole" that guarantees what you want.
    and still do. it's not JUST a hearse it's "hearse / non commercial ambulance" so if you're not driving in commerce (as most people typically aren't, but they don't know that) then it's the only class that fits... when i need to rego the bike i'm probably going to change it over to this...
    60$ a year (and able to be written off against the business/ "self employment" to balance those books!)

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    there are downsides to being a contractor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    ... when i need to rego the bike i'm probably going to change it over to this... ...
    Go for it.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-tax-scam.html

    Andy Knackstedt, of the New Zealand Transport Agency, which collects the fees, said: "I guess it comes down to people's willingness to falsely register their vehicles."

    But the agency warned that errant motorists were now in its sights and could face fines of up to NZ$1,000 each
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10395375

    Hundreds of motorists who re-registered vehicles as hearses to dodge car registration fees could face prosecution.
    ----

    And for the OP:

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/regi...adeplates.html

    You can only use trade plates for the purpose for which we supply them. So, if you're a car wrecker, you can use the plates on a car you're removing from the place where you've bought it to your destruction premises. If you use the plates for any other purpose, you can be fined for using an unregistered and unlicensed vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    Andy Knackstedt, of the New Zealand Transport Agency, which collects the fees, said: "I guess it comes down to people's willingness to falsely register their vehicles."

    But the agency warned that errant motorists were now in its sights and could face fines of up to NZ$1,000 each
    if you got away with it for 2 years, you saved 2 hundy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post

    you do realise the system doesn't usually win, eh?
    " a fine of 1000$" fucking scary bro. put it on the tab, the govt is paying that one off, too.

    and that a dumb bitch who tries to tell cops " it's a hearse because i carry dead chickens from the supermarket" is always ALWAYS going to get laughed at. (another reason why women shouldn't be allowed cars) then she goes and tells everyone in town.
    dumb. dumb. bitch.

    -edit- and if you read my post, and/or "the law" you'll see that it IS NOT "falsely" registering a vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    I'm on a test drive.

    I'm delivering the vehicle to the new owner, Tame Iti, C/e Urewera Forest.

    I'm delivering the vehicle to a dealership because I have taken it in trade.

    Easy easy. I am a fat little grey haired middle aged man, I can call the cops "son" and say things like "I've been driving since you were in short pants and I'll see you in court"

    etc.

    If they say you arent, its up to them to prove it, and with appropriate paperwork (easy given my day job) then, um, .... why the hell not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    if you got away with it for 2 years, you saved 2 hundy..
    I will soon be in a position of running two over 600 cc bikes which would cost $1100 a year to register.

    I only ride for pleasure really, and there is something seriously fucked about a system that it costs more to register them than it does to put petrol in them.
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    dont even have to be a dealer: proprietor of a transport museum sounds like me:

    it is 42 square metres of tasty goodness, stuffed with half worn out VFR400NC30 parts, newer triumph parts and an old POS.

    Quote Originally Posted by NZTA
    who can use dealer plates?

    a motor vehicle trader
    manufacturer and assembler
    car wrecker (if you have a second-hand trader licence)
    government department
    delivering unregistered motor vehicles
    motor vehicle repairer
    proprietor of a transport museum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    dont even have to be a dealer: proprietor of a transport museum sounds like me:

    it is 42 square metres of tasty goodness, stuffed with half worn out VFR400NC30 parts, newer triumph parts and an old POS.
    Motor vehicle repairer sounds good. I've fixed broken things on vehicles many a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    ... and if you read my post ...
    Neither your car nor your bike is actually a "hearse / non commercial ambulance".
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