The minority may ruin it for the majority on the "Coro Loop"

**duckonin** · 5th October 2012, 09:32

Leave the speed limit alone 80 kph in this day and age with powerful vehicles is asking for trouble. I could imagine the trouble at that speed during holiday periods

. The Coro loop is all good as a road goes, it has its limitations in areas. Police presence lacks badly around most of the Coro

WE all know what the trouble is, it is not a race track.
Unfortunately there seems to be an awful lot of motorcyclists that think it is and use it as one.

Where we live you can hear a bike/bikes coming from a good distance. We are not far from the edge of a town. On the weekends I would estimate 10 bikes over two days would go past out property in excess of 140-170/plus kph, I would say that maybe conservative on a warm weekend also.

Bullarangi would love to see the coro regulated to 80kph that way he could justify not having to pull over/let past faster traffic. Bullarangi is a tour operator and gives his fare paying passengers a good safe ride around the Coro at a speed which would be very enjoyable . They paid to see the beauty of the Coro, not just a wizz and fizz. I laugh when talking to those on faster machines when we are told "it costs $300/$400 for a rear tyre and I can do one in in 2000 k's" ha ha what a jerk, it is know wonder these idgits only ride 1500/2000 k's a year

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**Premature Accelerato** · 5th October 2012, 09:50

So if poor handling has been identified as one of the causes of these crashes, perhaps ACC/Govt/Trans NZ could subsidise us all with Ohlins units for our bikes

**bogan** · 5th October 2012, 10:14

Originally Posted by trustme

we are all accountable.

What the fuck did I do? I've never even ridden the coro loop (did part of it in a Van once though). Guess it government problem solving policy though, group by easily identifiable characteristics, then add extra tax.

**imdying** · 5th October 2012, 11:19

What sort of faggot promotes motorcycling safety whilst wearing a short sleeve shirt, a piss bowl, and no gloves

**MIZXR** · 5th October 2012, 13:20

Originally Posted by imdying

What sort of faggot promotes motorcycling safety whilst wearing a short sleeve shirt, a piss bowl, and no gloves

Those that want acc to pay for a helper to wipe their arse when they fall off at standstill. Typically harley or scoot riders.

**FJRider** · 5th October 2012, 14:19

Originally Posted by Matt Bleck

IF they where, then dropping the speed limit would help, but normally the ones that smer themselves on the road don't OBEY speed limits! Do you get it now?

Considering that most of "the Loop" consists of road that could be dangerous at 100 kms/hr. ALL the corners will have speed advisory signs ... and are largely ignored by motorcyclists in general. But in any case of an "incident" ... the "I wasn't speeding" (over the posted limit) gets trotted out ....

Overcooking a corner happens (I have done this myself) and you find yourself on the wrong side of the centerline. Often you get away with it ... a few near-misses. Maybe a collision ... or just an off. (with or without other vehicles involved)

The few fast, talented riders capable riders are still at risk ... because unless they KNOW they are the only vehicle on that road at that time ... there is still the chance that some numpty will still be in the wrong place (FOR YOU) at the wrong time.

The attitude of many ... "I can ... so I will" has passed it's expiry date. The reduction in speed limit on that road will change many of the charges laid by police from careless use ... to DANGEROUS .... (AND MAY STILL DO SO IF IT'S NOT LOWERED)

It's a very public, and very popular road. Not a private racetrack for self-centered egotists ...

Regardless of any posted speed limit on that road ... expect it to be heavily policed ... and expect to be stopped, and charges laid ... OFTEN. Even if no "incident" occurs.

**trustme** · 5th October 2012, 14:39

Originally Posted by bogan

What the fuck did I do? I've never even ridden the coro loop (did part of it in a Van once though). Guess it government problem solving policy though, group by easily identifiable characteristics, then add extra tax.

Harley riders blame the sprot bikers, sprot bikers blame the cruiser boys. We are all in it together, we are all accountable because ultimately we are all affected.

**BigAl** · 5th October 2012, 14:40

Meh, who wants to live forever?

**p.dath** · 5th October 2012, 14:50

Originally Posted by BigAl

Meh, who wants to live forever?

Forever is a far away concept, but I'd like to see the day out.

**scumdog** · 5th October 2012, 15:59

Originally Posted by imdying

What sort of faggot promotes motorcycling safety whilst wearing a short sleeve shirt, a piss bowl, and no gloves

Yeah, WTF, don't they realise that being dressed like that will cause them ride in a far more dangerous manner and crash more frequently than if they were dressed like a 'tooth-past tube'......

**bogan** · 5th October 2012, 16:06

Originally Posted by trustme

Harley riders blame the sprot bikers, sprot bikers blame the cruiser boys. We are all in it together, we are all accountable because ultimately we are all affected.

Ahhh, the governments version of accountability; don't think it has worked yet, but I guess an employee has to tow the line right?

**pritch** · 5th October 2012, 16:16

With friends like Baz Howie who needs enemies. If he wants to ride slower he can. There are enough stretches of highway becoming 80kph limit without a motorcyclist asking for more.

Maybe they could have a 50kph limit just for Harley riders?

**SPman** · 5th October 2012, 16:17

Originally Posted by Katman

His post says "some dick on a sports bike" - not "everyone on a sports bike".

You, of all people, should understand the very real danger of idiots overstepping their ability on that road.

But I've never seen Death do it.
....mind you....it's been a while........

**Matt Bleck** · 5th October 2012, 16:30

Originally Posted by FJRider

Considering that most of "the Loop" consists of road that could be dangerous at 100 kms/hr. ALL the corners will have speed advisory signs ... and are largely ignored by motorcyclists in general. But in any case of an "incident" ... the "I wasn't speeding" (over the posted limit) gets trotted out ....

Overcooking a corner happens (I have done this myself) and you find yourself on the wrong side of the centerline. Often you get away with it ... a few near-misses. Maybe a collision ... or just an off. (with or without other vehicles involved)

The few fast, talented riders capable riders are still at risk ... because unless they KNOW they are the only vehicle on that road at that time ... there is still the chance that some numpty will still be in the wrong place (FOR YOU) at the wrong time.

The attitude of many ... "I can ... so I will" has passed it's expiry date. The reduction in speed limit on that road will change many of the charges laid by police from careless use ... to DANGEROUS .... (AND MAY STILL DO SO IF IT'S NOT LOWERED)

It's a very public, and very popular road. Not a private racetrack for self-centered egotists ...

Regardless of any posted speed limit on that road ... expect it to be heavily policed ... and expect to be stopped, and charges laid ... OFTEN. Even if no "incident" occurs.

Dude, you are completely missing my point here. And it is this, if the powers that be think that by dropping the speed limit it will have an impact on the sort of fatalities that result from speed, ie, over cooking a corner and hitting a car, or the bank, or, or, or, then they are living in a fairy tale land. They will happen regardless of the speed limit, people will all ways make bad decisions, some live and some die and some kill other people.