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    LAMS logic

    I dont understand why there isnt a massive attack on the lams bikes.

    Remember when suzuki hit the market with rf900s at $9995.00 .
    So many sold.

    Why hasnt the like of Suzuki hit the market with gs500f lams for 8k

    Lets say they did and had $1500 deposit and 24months interest free to match the learners period licence.
    Lets say they put crash bungs on the frame front axel and swing arm as a lams addition.

    Would they flood the market and create a market that trades in that bike at the suzuki dealership on a larger bike later.

    It seems to me the lams bike specials are beyond the price a learner will pay.
    Is 10k to much for a ninja 300 to sell in bulk.

    $1500 deposit and $65 per week finance would suit alot of first time bike owners???
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    I dont understand why there isnt a massive attack on the lams bikes.

    Remember when suzuki hit the market with rf900s at $9995.00 .
    So many sold.

    Why hasnt the like of Suzuki hit the market with gs500f lams for 8k

    Lets say they did and had $1500 deposit and 24months interest free to match the learners period licence.
    Lets say they put crash bungs on the frame front axel and swing arm as a lams addition.

    Would they flood the market and create a market that trades in that bike at the suzuki dealership on a larger bike later.

    It seems to me the lams bike specials are beyond the price a learner will pay.
    Is 10k to much for a ninja 300 to sell in bulk.

    $1500 deposit and $65 per week finance would suit alot of first time bike owners???
    Second hand market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    Second hand market.

    /thread
    2nd hand market isnt turning over new bike for suzuki nz. Its not doing alot for their bike dealerships either.
    For every 2nd hand bike sold in a dealership its likely 3 are selling outside dealerships in the learners market.
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    Ninja 250 seems to have sold pretty well for close to 10 grand so I have little doubt they will have trouble moving the 300s.

    The GS500F doesn't look as cool as the ninja 300 so kids aren't going to buy it. Stick monster energy stickers on any bike and watch it fly out the door. Sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    Ninja 250 seems to have sold pretty well for close to 10 grand so I have little doubt they will have trouble moving the 300s.

    The GS500F doesn't look as cool as the ninja 300 so kids aren't going to buy it. Stick monster energy stickers on any bike and watch it fly out the door. Sad but true.

    True. Models are just an example but I dont think any manufacturer or NZ supplier has really gone out to attack the market in NZ yet.
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    Well, for a start, it's only been a few weeks since LAMs came in, so we have to give it a bit of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    Ninja 250 seems to have sold pretty well for close to 10 grand so I have little doubt they will have trouble moving the 300s.

    The GS500F doesn't look as cool as the ninja 300 so kids aren't going to buy it. Stick monster energy stickers on any bike and watch it fly out the door. Sad but true.
    That's why I bought my bike, covered in monster stickers. Funnily enough I was at the gym and parked my bike beside a scooter that was plastered in monster stickers, looked quite funny. I'm looking for a drz400sm at the moment, I want to turn it in to a Travis Pastrana replica. That'll make me happy in my pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    That's why I bought my bike, covered in monster stickers. Funnily enough I was at the gym and parked my bike beside a scooter that was plastered in monster stickers, looked quite funny. I'm looking for a drz400sm at the moment, I want to turn it in to a Travis Pastrana replica. That'll make me happy in my pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    True. Models are just an example but I dont think any manufacturer or NZ supplier has really gone out to attack the market in NZ yet.
    I wonder if it's simply because most people (sellers and first time buyers alike) don't knows it exists. I've got a LAMS bike up for sale fairly cheap (2.5k) in fairly good nic. But because it's an odd capacity rating, no calls even in the month it's been up for sale.

    Considering how most people shop on trademe first, and the CC ratings search bars are trademe are fuckin awful (seriously, why can i only search 250 500 750 ect?) dealerships would have to find a way to steer people away from automatically jumping onto trademe and searching for 250s.

    It also doesn't help that theres a lot of really shit information about LAMS circulation. I've seen people on trademe with their 600 bandit/hornets or 400 GSXRs saying "I think it's LAMS approved!". Be a huge hassle for a lot of first time buys who just want something shiny that looks cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glowerss View Post
    I wonder if it's simply because most people (sellers and first time buyers alike) don't knows it exists. I've got a LAMS bike up for sale fairly cheap (2.5k) in fairly good nic. But because it's an odd capacity rating, no calls even in the month it's been up for sale.

    Considering how most people shop on trademe first, and the CC ratings search bars are trademe are fuckin awful (seriously, why can i only search 250 500 750 ect?) dealerships would have to find a way to steer people away from automatically jumping onto trademe and searching for 250s.

    It also doesn't help that theres a lot of really shit information about LAMS circulation. I've seen people on trademe with their 600 bandit/hornets or 400 GSXRs saying "I think it's LAMS approved!". Be a huge hassle for a lot of first time buys who just want something shiny that looks cool.
    You have the work LAMS in your auction becuase i didnt find yours searching Lams bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    You have the work LAMS in your auction becuase i didnt find yours searching Lams bikes.
    Auction expired last night actually and I've been slack getting it back up today But actually I didn't have LAMS in the title either. That would likely help, thanks for that sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glowerss View Post
    Auction expired last night actually and I've been slack getting it back up today But actually I didn't have LAMS in the title either. That would likely help, thanks for that sir
    Doesnt need be in title just in the text somewhere.
    i just looked at LAMS as search word in price order and didnt see any Auck bikes around 2500 price so assumed you didnt have any mention of it.
    LAMS in title would help but I dont think you can change title name even when relisting without paying for a new auction.
    You can add a subtitle but I think they want $5 for that. Forkin Tardme.
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    Mossy LAMS pick of the week

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-520986789.htm

    I think they look every bit as good as a ninja 300 but that may be because im old.
    What do the younger KB members think of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    True. Models are just an example but I dont think any manufacturer or NZ supplier has really gone out to attack the market in NZ yet.
    There aren't the number of learner new bike buyers in NZ ... to justify a special model run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    What do the younger KB members think of them?
    It's shit.

    It's all covered in plastic, they've hidden the kickstart somewhere, there's no sign of a decompressor and it's got no advance adjuster.
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