LAMS logic

[Morcs]

The price to pay for new.

I dont see anyone moaning about a brand new corolla costing like 30k...

GS500Fs are ghey. thats why.

Noobs should stick with 250s.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ducati have done just that with that Monster.


Oh wait, its $17.5k.....

[Slicksta]

If suzuki had the gs out for that sort of money I might have gone for it. But as it stands they don't and i don't know if they will considering they don't import them to Australia. I would not discount the ninja 300 to much however got mine for 9.5k on the road is not to bad. Having ridden this and a gs500 i think the performance figures would not be to different.

[Oakie]

If suzuki had the gs out for that sort of money I might have gone for it. But as it stands they don't and i don't know if they will considering they don't import them to Australia. I would not discount the ninja 300 to much however got mine for 9.5k on the road is not to bad. Having ridden this and a gs500 i think the performance figures would not be to different.

Ninja 300 can be bought for US$4700 in the States. Thats about NZ $6700 I think. I make no point ... I'm just saying.
Couldn't find performance figures for it but guessing 40hp, give or take. GS500 at 52hp from memory. I'd have the GS but that's as much because I want an upright position to take the strain off my wrists. (Mum told me that wanking would make me go blind ... if she said it would prevent me riding a sports style bike I might have taken more notice of her.)

[ducatilover]

Ninja 300 can be bought for US$4700 in the States. Thats about NZ $6700 I think. I make no point ... I'm just saying.
Couldn't find performance figures for it but guessing 40hp, give or take. GS500 at 52hp from memory. I'd have the GS but that's as much because I want an upright position to take the strain off my wrists. (Mum told me that wanking would make me go blind ... if she said it would prevent me riding a sports style bike I might have taken more notice of her.)

I'll eat my gloves if it has 40hp. The ER4-n (we don't get that) has 42hp, and it's a 400.
There seems to be an obsession with low power outputs, fine on bigger engines when there's actually some torque (like the ER5/GS500 twins) I wouldn't even consider a "Ninja" now the ER5 is legal.

[Slicksta]

Ninja 300 can be bought for US$4700 in the States. Thats about NZ $6700 I think. I make no point ... I'm just saying.
Couldn't find performance figures for it but guessing 40hp, give or take. GS500 at 52hp from memory. I'd have the GS but that's as much because I want an upright position to take the strain off my wrists. (Mum told me that wanking would make me go blind ... if she said it would prevent me riding a sports style bike I might have taken more notice of her.)

The GS wet weight is around 199kgs and bhp (1997-2009 47bhp) that would make the power to weight 236 bhp per ton, the ninja 300 is 172 kgs and 39bhp that makes the power to weight 227 bhp per ton.

Bugger all difference (sorry if my maths is shoddy)

Depends where you are in states as to price, they vary from state to state depending on taxes from $5200usd-$6500usd on the road and in europe they are around 5600 euro.

But yeah fairly light flickable revvy small bike with fuel injection and a slipper clutch count me in.

Still waiting on mine to come in to NZ .

[huff3r]

The GS wet weight is around 199kgs and bhp (1997-2009 47bhp) that would make the power to weight 236 bhp per ton, the ninja 300 is 172 kgs and 39bhp that makes the power to weight 227 bhp per ton.

Bugger all difference (sorry if my maths is shoddy)

Depends where you are in states as to price, they vary from state to state depending on taxes from $5200usd-$6500usd on the road and in europe they are around 5600 euro.

But yeah fairly light flickable revvy small bike with fuel injection and a slipper clutch count me in.

Still waiting on mine to come in to NZ .

I'd rather have the heavy. I'm sick of being blown all over the show on my 250. Really should get my full haha.

[Slicksta]

I'd rather have the heavy. I'm sick of being blown all over the show on my 250. Really should get my full haha.

Just get fat it helps!

[ducatilover]

The GS wet weight is around 199kgs and bhp (1997-2009 47bhp) that would make the power to weight 236 bhp per ton, the ninja 300 is 172 kgs and 39bhp that makes the power to weight 227 bhp per ton.

Bugger all difference (sorry if my maths is shoddy)

Depends where you are in states as to price, they vary from state to state depending on taxes from $5200usd-$6500usd on the road and in europe they are around 5600 euro.

But yeah fairly light flickable revvy small bike with fuel injection and a slipper clutch count me in.

Still waiting on mine to come in to NZ .

27NM? Is that all? That's low for a 300cc motor, my Spada was making 28nm at 8000rpm (thank you dyno) in standard form.
The GS makes 40nm, which is by my shit maths near 30% more torque.
Both are claimed 170 ish kg dry aren't they?


I just realised my GN will make moar torquez than both of them anyway. Ghey.

[Slicksta]

I'll eat my gloves if it has 40hp. The ER4-n (we don't get that) has 42hp, and it's a 400.
There seems to be an obsession with low power outputs, fine on bigger engines when there's actually some torque (like the ER5/GS500 twins) I wouldn't even consider a "Ninja" now the ER5 is legal.

Yeah 27 Nm of torque is not exactly for the ninja is not heaps my sv had 64 Nm. The GS has 40Nm but it depends on what you want in the bike.

[mossy1200]

Because, you bunch of ingorant dicks .. Suzuki has got it's shit together ... they didn't produce a GS500 LAMS because they made a GSX650F LAMS bike ... and it is just under 10 grand ...

Go here ...

http://www.bikepoint.com.au/reviews/...50f-lams-14287

This apparently has 48 horses - compared with the standard 650 of around 75 horses ...

We dont live in Australia so the price is 11k plus onroad costs ex demo or 14500 2012 new . thats 3k up to 6.5k more than the thread content talks about.
They arnt offering special lams low deposit low or no interest loans or any carrots for new riders.
The thread is about the intent to hit the market hard by the suppliers, importers and distributers.

Guess your comment makes you an IGNORANT DICK as you like to call it.

[ducatilover]

Yeah 27 Nm of torque is not exactly for the ninja is not heaps my sv had 64 Nm. The GS has 40Nm but it depends on what you want in the bike.

My 5 million year old 600 makes a whopping 68nm which is nothing.
Your last sentence is right.
I'd take the GS, actually, I'd take an ER-5, but whatever. The Ninja 250/300 just don't suit me, too tacky looking, not speccy enough for a new bike. To each their own eh?

[Slicksta]

27NM? Is that all? That's low for a 300cc motor, my Spada was making 28nm at 8000rpm (thank you dyno) in standard form.
The GS makes 40nm, which is by my shit maths near 30% more torque.
Both are claimed 170 ish kg dry aren't they?


I just realised my GN will make moar torquez than both of them anyway. Ghey.

No the Ninja is 172kgs wet and the GS is 199kg wet.

It all depends on how you want to ride having ridden both I prefered the ninja.

[ducatilover]

No the Ninja is 172kgs wet and the GS is 199kg wet.

It all depends on how you want to ride having ridden both I prefered the ninja.

Where did you get that number from? I recall the EX250/Ninja 250R being 170 dry.

[Slicksta]

Where did you get that number from? I recall the EX250/Ninja 250R being 170 dry.

http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_c...00ADF&do=specs link to dry weight oddly NZ only lists dry

http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/STREET-...1518/Ninja-300 where as canada lists wet