LAMS logic

[mossy1200]

To make a gsx650l they needed it to be porky because the hp was to high. I think they picked the wrong bike for the job.

Its not just suzuki.

Its the lack of any distributer to get in there and say we have this market. This is our range of learner bikes and these are our special deals to attract people into buying a new bike rather than a 20 year old over priced 2nd hand one.

We (insert dealer here) have the ideal lams legal bikes at affordable prices with 24month warrenties and low or no interest finance so you dont need play lotto on a older bike that could poo itself next week.

[ducatilover]

http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_c...00ADF&do=specs link to dry weight oddly NZ only lists dry

http://www.kawasaki.ca/model/STREET-...1518/Ninja-300 where as canada lists wet

Cool.
Well, it's a reasonably light bike.
Give me a ride on one? I'd be interested to see the difference over the 250R, which is positively uninspiring

[Slicksta]

If honda sleeved this http://www.honda-motorcycles.co.nz/BikeModel/428/nc700s and made a few non essentual cost cuts to it they should be able to get it under 10k

[ducatilover]

To make a gsx650l they needed it to be porky because the hp was to high. I think they picked the wrong bike for the job.

Its not just suzuki.

Its the lack of any distributer to get in there and say we have this market. This is our range of learner bikes and these are our special deals to attract people into buying a new bike rather than a 20 year old over priced 2nd hand one.

We (insert dealer here) have the ideal lams legal bikes at affordable prices with 24month warrenties and low or no interest finance so you dont need play lotto on a older bike that could poo itself next week.

Bring back the new GN250.
Put a set of BT45 or Sport Demons on them, sell them for 3.5k (which is more than they're worth incl. tyres)
Done, every learner sorted.

[Slicksta]

Cool.
Well, it's a reasonably light bike.
Give me a ride on one? I'd be interested to see the difference over the 250R, which is positively uninspiring

Next time I am down your way you can take it for a spin!

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-517212429.htm

Theres Suzukis custom.

So add

LS650 with another 500 off that price 8250 1500 deposit 2 year warrenty 5% interest.
GSX500F for 8250 1500 deposit 2 year warrenty 5% interest
GSX650 lams 13000 3000 deposit 2 years warrenty 36months 5% interest
VL250 6700 1000 deposit 2 years warrenty 5% interest

Come on Suzuki NZ. Add a trail bike to that and hit the market with some advertising and take the market.

How about a lams TV advert and your bikes riding in their ideal areas and put in your finance deals. A few advertising billboards and some signs in the shop windows

SUZUKI WE HAVE STARTING OUT ON AN ADVENTURE ALL WRAPPED UP FOR YOU THIS SUMMER.

[Ender EnZed]

Come on Suzuki NZ. Add a trail bike to that and hit the market with some advertising and take the market.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-451916571.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-497945775.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-514824306.htm

[davereid]

If honda sleeved this http://www.honda-motorcycles.co.nz/BikeModel/428/nc700s and made a few non essentual cost cuts to it they should be able to get it under 10k

Honda NZ already make a fortune on those. They have a USA MRSP of $6995 and regularly sell under that.

And Honda NZ have already removed everything they can, including safety features - ABS is standard on these but is removed to inflate profits in NZ.

[Slicksta]

Honda NZ already make a fortune on those. They have a USA MRSP of $6995 and regularly sell under that.

And Honda NZ have already removed everything they can, including safety features - ABS is standard on these but is removed to inflate profits in NZ.

I know its unrealistic for Honda to drop
there margins but would make a good entry level bike bit heavy for me however as it stands they don't have much of an offering in this market.

[ducatilover]

I know its unrealistic for Honda to drop
there margins but would make a good entry level bike bit heavy for me however as it stands they don't have much of an offering in this market.

You could always go for a new CBR250R...

[nerrrd]

In Honda's defence (even though I would want ABS thrown in too) I don't think we're the only market missing out. Also other similar bikes (like the er6-n or gladius 650) don't have ABS in NZ either. Seems to be becoming more of a standard feature in Australia, though, so maybe in time. Also they don't get the x version, only the s, but I digress.

The g650gs beemer looks like pretty good value (with rebates), if they've tidied up the low speed wobbles the engine on mine has it would be a great learner bike (except for the heavy to pick up, pricey to fix/service part).

[manxkiwi]

I've seen this GSXR600U in a couple of mags lately, in the LAMS list. Is it a restricted model? I'm guessing it must be? By the way, i haven't read every page of this thread, so please excuse if this has been covered.

Does anyone know anything about it? I think the current model is an L2?

[ducatilover]

I've seen this GSXR600U in a couple of mags lately, in the LAMS list. Is it a restricted model? I'm guessing it must be? By the way, i haven't read every page of this thread, so please excuse if this has been covered.

Does anyone know anything about it? I think the current model is an L2?

Never seen one here, in the ewww-kay they have 33hp. Usually an air restriction (26mm I/D washers on the intakes and fucked with injector timing and ign. timing.
I doubt we'll get it here, our market is too small and it'd be fucking expensive here too.

[GrayWolf]

Because, you bunch of ingorant dicks .. Suzuki has got it's shit together ... they didn't produce a GS500 LAMS because they made a GSX650F LAMS bike ... and it is just under 10 grand ...
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Three points. A) That's $10,000 AUSD. Which means they'll charge $14,000 for it here (they already are. You can find em on trademe). Which is ludicrous. They'd have to sell those here for exactly the same amount to make it worthwhile, which they wont do.

B) Those things are fucking heavy. Like, bandit 1250 weight heavy. I think those things are 216kg DRY, and some 240kg ready to go. That's a fuckton of weight for somebody who has never ridden before. Especially with all that shiny plastic to tip over onto.

C) the GS500f is better then that in every concievable way. They'd be much cheaper to make/maintain, they're boatloads lighter, get way better fuel economy, look nearly as good, and actually they put out slightly more power then the gsx650f.

If suzuki was selling the GS500f for 7 or 8k new, which I can't see why they couldn't considering its been the same bike since like the mid 80s, I could see many of them selling. I remember reading somewhere that the gs500f is the most popular LAMS bike in aus by leaps and bounds. Not hard to see why.

Yup we really are the IGNORANT DICK, eh????
Thanks for the post Glowerss you saved me the job !!

[Ender EnZed]

I've seen this GSXR600U in a couple of mags lately, in the LAMS list.

It's about $18k worth of restrictors and plastic. I don't know if Suzuki NZ will sell you one but I'd hope not.