LAMS logic

[imdying]

If I was a learner, it'd be the SXV450 all day long... parts from AF1 and two fingers to the importers and hey ho off I go.

On that I could live without a sports bike thus avoiding the slow arse shit heaps that are every single 250 4 stroke ever made. RVF400 would be tempting mind...

[neels]

There are options appearing, suzuki seem to be doing a good trade in DR650's judging by the number of crates outside my local dealer when I went in the other day.

In terms of bang for your buck and if you don't mind sitting on a plank, if I was a learner I'd be going for a DRZ400E/SM, although at 48hp and 127kg I'm not sure how they make the list but all good can only increase the value of my 400E

[arcane12]

Well, the one that Suzuki has listed is 146kg (wet) and on wikipedia it's listed at 33.4 bhp so based on those stats it's legal. Assuming those stats are right, which is all that we can do.

To be LAMS legal it has to be 660 or under, 150kw/tonne, on the list, and not modified to increase power to weight. So by that it would seem if you modified something that has 90 kw/tonne to get 100kw/tonne out of it, it is no longer legal. :frown: I wonder if going on a diet is illegal?

[Tigadee]

I wonder if going on a diet is illegal?

It should be, then more people would do it...

[oneofsix]

I wonder if going on a diet is illegal?

if it were they may then actually work

[Glowerss]

It's a shame this thing isn't made by somebody other then an unknown chinese brand

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-529206226.htm

Not too bad lookin. You'd sell heaps of those if somebody........reputable was makin it

[arcane12]

That picture makes it look small, pity. I guess it's the angle. At 206kg I would think it's not a little bike.

A learner would have to also be sure to get the LAMS variant - the full power version is goes from 41.5KW to 52KW!

Imported by Truimph, so at least a little support?

[Ocean1]

Imported by Truimph, so at least a little support?

Indeed?

Talk to some Aprilia owners about Triumph NZ's support.

[GrayWolf]

It's a shame this thing isn't made by somebody other then an unknown chinese brand

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-529206226.htm

Not too bad lookin. You'd sell heaps of those if somebody........reputable was makin it

I think motorcycle trader did a road test, on one a wee while ago.. I do remember reading it. I think they were pleased with it, some obviously tacky build quality was pointed out, but I seem to recall they liked the package overall.

[ducatilover]

It's a shame this thing isn't made by somebody other then an unknown chinese brand

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-529206226.htm

Not too bad lookin. You'd sell heaps of those if somebody........reputable was makin it

The Chinese are starting to make some great looking bikes (there's countless models over there) and the best part is, they look better than the Jap ones.
Every new Jap bike is getting uglier and uglier.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fi...k/viewall.html
If I see one in a shop near me, I'll test ride. I'd love to see what it rides like now

[Subike]

The Chinese are starting to make some great looking bikes (there's countless models over there) and the best part is, they look better than the Jap ones.
Every new Jap bike is getting uglier and uglier.

They also seem to go as well as can be expected for what they are too, things don't seem to fall off like the rumors have it told.

[Oblivion]

That one does not look that bad. Obviously coming from China, it'll have the issue of having to prove its quality against the others in its market. But I would like to see where a bike like that gets to in a few years.

Resale on a bike like that might prove to be a bit of an issue. Just like the Daelim ones that have popped up.

[Subike]

That one does not look that bad. Obviously coming from China, it'll have the issue of having to prove its quality against the others in its market. But I would like to see where a bike like that gets to in a few years.

Resale on a bike like that might prove to be a bit of an issue. Just like the Daelim ones that have popped up.

Resale value?, Dont expect to get fuck all for mine by the time i'm finnished with it, for the price new, $4.500inc

2 - 3 years is all I expect it to live, . Enough time to pocket way some cash for another new bike.

I would treat the Chinese bikes as consumables, not long life friends like a Duke, Yammy Tumpy or Guzzi.

[mossy1200]

Resale value?, Dont expect to get fuck all for mine by the time i'm finnished with it, for the price new, $4.500inc

2 - 3 years is all I expect it to live, . Enough time to pocket way some cash for another new bike.

I would treat the Chinese bikes as consumables, not long life friends like a Duke, Yammy Tumpy or Guzzi.

Thats harsh

Idd say kept clean and looked after 80tho km. maybe a increased chance of a lemon but think of it this way. China most likely has more small bikes cruising around than you think. They most likely arnt to bad at making a 10 year consumable vehicle. Quality of chrome etc may be lower but price preportionable and silcon spray your chrome and should last long enough for you to get a 50% return on your money after a few years.
If you have transport on average thats only loses 15hundy, 2tho in 3 years your not doing that bad.

[ducatilover]

Thats harsh

Idd say kept clean and looked after 80tho km. maybe a increased chance of a lemon but think of it this way. China most likely has more small bikes cruising around than you think. They most likely arnt to bad at making a 10 year consumable vehicle. Quality of chrome etc may be lower but price preportionable and silcon spray your chrome and should last long enough for you to get a 50% return on your money after a few years.
If you have transport on average thats only loses 15hundy, 2tho in 3 years your not doing that bad.

Find some Chinese bike webistes and takle a stroll, they have more bikes available than we do
Many run engines that are "copies", often old tooling from other manufacturers (if people want to bitch about copied shit, go stare at some REPCO branded tools) and generally purchased, not nicked.

I'm dead keen to look over one of these CF motor machines.