It's indestructable biker season again!

[GTRMAN]

You're confusing risk with consequence. If the risk was that high I wouldn't be riding.

Definition of risk
noun

• a situation involving exposure to danger:
  

Not confused at all...

[GDOBSSOR]

Don't ignore summer biker sexism either. I am amazed at the riders one sees out with BFF, or prospective BFF, on the back wearing street clothes (including shoes and a fashion leather jacket) and a helmet that doesn't fit properly.

Sexually transmitted diseases are one thing, sexually affected carnage is something else entirely. Ladies, if his cock's that small that he's prepared to put you at risk for a root, look elsewhere. Seriously.

If it's pillion in street clothes or walking home 10 ks by myself from a party at 3am, I'd get on the back.

[GDOBSSOR]

I get a giggle going when the "I'm tougher than you because I don't wear gear" types show up.

I would be seriously surprised if those who are against wearing their gear have ever tasted the icy bite of the tarmac. Once you know that pain, you'll be covering up like the rest I'm sure. That is unless you've a chemical imbalance in the grey matter, or none at all

Oh they have a chemical imbalance alright. You go to Waitarere beach, you see riders riding shirtless in shorts, about half don't even bother with helmets on the beach. My ex partner's father said he felt the helmet laws were unfair 'because it violated his personal freedom'.

[bogan]

Definition of risk
noun

• a situation involving exposure to danger:
  

Not confused at all...

So is it the level of exposure, or the level of danger that determines the risk? That definition is ambiguous.

The likelihood of a negative outcome.

Other definitions suggest it is the exposure part that is the level of risk. So I wouldn't consider riding the bike an increased risk at all.

[merv]

Only in recent years did the ACC levy bite in Motorcycle registration. And you aren't the ONLY multiple vehicle owner in the last 40 years. So please don't tell us how YOU paid the "ACC bil" single handed.

What part of the word share don't you understand sonny and how did you turn that into single handed?

[GSF]

helmet laws were unfair 'because it violated his personal freedom'.

I love that one. Hear it in the States quite a bit too.
"If I fall off and hit my head bad enough, I wanna be free to shit in a bag, stare at a ceiling and have someone turn me in my bed every few hours for the rest of my life!"

[swbarnett]

Definition of risk
noun

• a situation involving exposure to danger:
  

Not confused at all...

That's a very ambiguous definition.

"Risk" is more practically defined as the likelihood of an undesireable event.

"Consequence" is defined as the severy of that undesireable event.

Hence, when planning an trip one can weigh up the risk and consequence. High likelihood of an event with minimal consequence is not worth worrying about. Similarly for an unlikely event with a large consquence.

I use this all the time when planning computer outages.

[Coolz]

Oh they have a chemical imbalance alright. You go to Waitarere beach, you see riders riding shirtless in shorts, about half don't even bother with helmets on the beach. My ex partner's father said he felt the helmet laws were unfair 'because it violated his personal freedom'.

Your ex's father is probably from an era when people cared about personal freedom and saw each violation as a step towards the cotton wrapped, flouro clad, homoginised world we now live in.

Riding down the beach in shorts, sheesh, some people cling to cliff faces by their fingertips while others sail mighty oceans in tiny yachts.

[FuriousD]

Yay! :-(

Sorry pet hate of mine ... people riding bikes wearing a T-Shirt, no gloves and light trousers or shorts :-(

Or are the local bikers made of stuff tougher than kevlar ?

Going along symonds street today coming back from uni. no less the 6 motorcycles and who knows how many scooters wearing t-shirts. made me wish my skin was as thick as theirs!

[FuriousD]

Your ex's father is probably from an era when people cared about personal freedom and saw each violation as a step towards the cotton wrapped, flouro clad, homoginised world we now live in.

Riding down the beach in shorts, sheesh, some people cling to cliff faces by their fingertips while others sail mighty oceans in tiny yachts.

Yes but those people tend to wear/ equip themselves with the right stuff ie. harnesses if sailing alone/rough weather.

[Subike]

Yes but those people tend to wear/ equip themselves with the right stuff ie. harnesses if sailing alone/rough weather.

Well, this is a relivent argument, equipping yourself with the right gear to do the intended thing, but then I guess the argument is "what is the right gear?"
This again is subject to personal choice and risk evaluation.
What I consider the right equipment for riding my bike other than the legal minimum ( a helmet and sufficient clothing to ensure I am not exposing my genitalia to the masses) is for me to decide, I choose the risk level and enjoy my riding.

[mossy1200]

Its a bit like paint ball

If you have alot of gear on and you get hit its doesnt hurt as bad.

If you have shorts and t under the overalls you wont get hit as often because you know that paint balls going to sting like a muth@forka.
Only problem is if you fork it up get ready for a welt.

[FJRider]

What part of the word share don't you understand sonny and how did you turn that into single handed?

The ACC levy attached to any vehicles registration is NOT the vehicle owners "share" of the required funding ACC needs to provide it's service. Nor was it ever intended to be that owners "share" of that funding.

Only a self centered, egotistical, dickhead .... could believe it is.

The ACC levy is merely an obligatory Government tax ... labeled as such to justify/increase the amount .... and added to all vehicle registrations ...

The fairness of the policy has been ... and will be ... argued Ad nauseam.

[Berries]

Going along symonds street today coming back from uni. no less the 6 motorcycles and who knows how many scooters wearing t-shirts. made me wish my skin was as thick as theirs!

Did any of them crash?






Can't see the problem then.

Do you get as concerned about cyclists wearing lycra?

[mossy1200]

Did any of them crash?

No. But their gang used to have 8 members.
Jimmy and Bob grazed their knees and take the bus now.