Colemans Suzuki misleading DR650 LAMS advertising - be warned

**Eddieb** · 22nd October 2012, 18:03

Beware any learner riders looking to by a new LAMS approved DR650 with extra's from Colemans.

Originally Posted by Colemans Trade Me ad

"Comes with 18l fuel tank, Fat bars, bar risers, bash plate and FMF muffler ontop of a 24 month warranty, 12 month WOF, 6 month registration and a full tank of 98."

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-517278607.htm

This bike as advertised is not LAMS approved due to the FMF muffler fitted. If you buy this and get pulled by the cops for any reason they could also nick you for riding a non-LAMS approved bike.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...torcycles.html

Originally Posted by nzta.govt.nz

The full lists of LAMS-approved and LAMS-prohibited motorcycles can be found below. The lists will be updated as new models are approved by the NZ Transport Agency.

Please note

Any motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, regardless of whether it appears on the list.

If you are a rider on a learner or restricted motorcycle licence, it is your responsibility to ensure you are riding a LAMS-approved motorcycle, as produced by the manufacturer. If in doubt, seek confirmation from the manufacturer’s agent or dealership. If you are unsure who to contact, details for all major motorcycle importers are available on the Motor Industry Association website.

Failure to comply with the new rules may result in fines and demerit points.

**dino3310** · 22nd October 2012, 18:18

and if you have already purchased one of these un approved LAMS DR650's with all the mods i can give you a straight swap for a LAMS approved XR600 just to help you out

**young1** · 22nd October 2012, 18:20

Good spotting!

**mossy1200** · 22nd October 2012, 18:23

Could it be that the weight of the bash plate offsets the lower muffler weight and the muffler creates more mid range power but not top end and it has been resurched and proven prior to being advertised as such.

Could a bike shop get it so wrong?

Maybe would be best ask them the questions.

**Akzle** · 22nd October 2012, 18:32

like fuck a cop's going to know.

**Padmei** · 22nd October 2012, 18:47

Originally Posted by Akzle

like fuck a cop's going to know.

Like a cops gonna give a rats arse.

**Waipukbiker** · 22nd October 2012, 20:16

Its like any law, its only as effective as to how well it gets policed. Anyway, as long as you are not a dumbarse on ya bike the cops arnt gunna pull you up to start with.

**bart** · 22nd October 2012, 20:25

Originally Posted by Waipukbiker

Its like any law, its only as effective as to how well it gets policed. Anyway, as long as you are not a dumbarse on ya bike the cops arnt gunna pull you up to start with.

Good call.

I've got a stock DR650 exhaust sitting here doing nothing. If anyone's that worried, a cheap bottle of whiskey and its yours.

**Eddieb** · 22nd October 2012, 20:54

Agreed to all of the above, but if it did happen and you got a fine and demerits for it you'd be pretty pissed given that it had been sold new by a Suzuki dealer as LAMS approved when it isn't.

While the risks may be low the advertising misrepresents what is being sold and of all people a manufacturer appointed dealer selling new bikes should be aware of this.

**mossy1200** · 22nd October 2012, 21:04

Ok

This is a dr650se
se for special edition
the extras are what makes it special edition

dr650se is on the list as approved.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett....html#overview

Or does se stand for something else.
idd be telling plod se was the extras and have a copy of the list in my pocket.

**PeeJay** · 22nd October 2012, 21:07

Originally Posted by Eddieb

Beware any learner riders looking to by a new LAMS approved DR650 with extra's from Colemans.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-517278607.htm

This bike as advertised is not LAMS approved due to the FMF muffler fitted. If you buy this and get pulled by the cops for any reason they could also nick you for riding a non-LAMS approved bike.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...torcycles.html

18L of fuel is around 12kg
The extra weight should easily account for the imaginery gains from fitting the muffler

**Eddieb** · 22nd October 2012, 21:13

Originally Posted by PeeJay

18L of fuel is around 12kg
The extra weight should easily account for the imaginery gains from fitting the muffler

If only it worked that way, but it doesn't.

**mossy1200** · 22nd October 2012, 21:15

Originally Posted by PeeJay

18L of fuel is around 12kg
The extra weight should easily account for the imaginery gains from fitting the muffler

http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes...se/1355444.htm

Freedoms add states lams and list extras but doesnt say that would take it out of lams list.

lams calculated on bike curb weight factory claimed with 10litres gas and 80kg rider weight

**Eddieb** · 22nd October 2012, 21:17

Originally Posted by mossy1200

http://www.autobase.co.nz/motorbikes...se/1355444.htm

Freedoms add states lams and list extras but doesnt say that would take it out of lams list.

lams calculated on bike curb weight factory claimed with 10litres gas and 80kg rider weight

Freedoms extra's are IMS 18.5 litre Fuel tank, Sargent seat & Slipstreamer Spitfire windscreen. None of those would take the bikes out of LAMS compliance.