Twins with better performance than a 97 TL1000S?

[Laava]

http://www.sportrider.com/
Check this table out.

[Ocean1]

http://www.sportrider.com/
Check this table out.

Hmmm. TL1000S = 10.84 1/4 mile, Buell 1125R = 10.45.

No numbers for the CR, but it's geared 8% lower than the R, it'll be a tad quicker.

[brp]

Cheers for the table Laava even though it did not have the cafe racer details - handy bit of kit

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bi...-2008-current/

(Not to mention it does not reach 160 MPH)

That link one of countless I found before making the statement

Looks a sweet ride your Buell - can only imagine the fun on the hills - if it had a streamlined fairing it might be inline with the TLS
in performance figures - but then you could just swap the elephant ear blinkers on the TLS for flush mount and it would pull
forward on the buell again nice looking property you have BTW. Don't want to split hairs both quick bikes but to say it out
performs a TLS stretching it a bit .....


Take it its only some buell's that have a bad reputation for reliability ? Seem to be the butt of all jokes at times - think recall seeing quite few lightning
or similar models on trade me that had full reconditioned motors at only around 30K - like the look of some of them - like their philosophy - good power to weight ......

[98tls]

Hmmm. TL1000S = 10.84 1/4 mile, Buell 1125R = 10.45.

No numbers for the CR, but it's geared 8% lower than the R, it'll be a tad quicker.

Personally i could care less which ones quicker but fwiw one of the 1st things i did when i bought my TL 11 or so years back was get rid of the oem toothed rear sprocket,pulled way harder after that.

[98tls]

On the Buell reliability thing a member on here Buellbabe has or had a real nice older one that had done huge kms with few issues.Local bloke down here has an older one he rides everywhere,doesnt have a car just the Buell,thing just keeps on keeping on.

[DEATH_INC.]

Yea heard a few myself over the years,mostly starting with "my mate had one blah blah blah".

I've experienced it firsthand...it's no myth....My mate's one tried it's best to kill Me. Funny though, his one was bloody mint, yet Loosebruce's worn out, bent old shitta wobbled and weaved and carried on everywhere, but didn't seem to tankslap....

Having finally ridden a Buell (XB12s I think) after wanting to try one for ages, I was very dissapointed, I'd have a TL anyday....

[98tls]

I've experienced it firsthand...it's no myth....My mate's one tried it's best to kill Me. Funny though, his one was bloody mint, yet Loosebruce's worn out, bent old shitta wobbled and weaved and carried on everywhere, but didn't seem to tankslap....

Having finally ridden a Buell (XB12s I think) after wanting to try one for ages, I was very dissapointed, I'd have a TL anyday....

Put it this way i wouldnt ride mine hard without the steering damper.A few on the TL forum have removed there damper and report no problems why they would bother doing thats beyond me.I posted earlier mines had a crack at me once in 11 years,ive ridden worse.

[ducatilover]

I've experienced it firsthand...it's no myth....My mate's one tried it's best to kill Me. Funny though, his one was bloody mint, yet Loosebruce's worn out, bent old shitta wobbled and weaved and carried on everywhere, but didn't seem to tankslap....

Having finally ridden a Buell (XB12s I think) after wanting to try one for ages, I was very dissapointed, I'd have a TL anyday....

I loved XBs, then someone let me ride a "hot" XB9R. Gutless. Sounded ghey (opinion ofcourse) But the XB R look cool, the 12 isn't hugely grunty but I'm sure they go okay enough for a blat between corners bike? I've never got the chance to thrash a 12, just pootle on one
I'd buy a TL too, bigger bike-penis.

[98tls]

Amusing thread really considering the TLs 15 years old.My Mrs just told me ive had mine for 13 years,was sure it was only 10 or 11.

[GrayWolf]

Cheers for the table Laava even though it did not have the cafe racer details - handy bit of kit

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bi...-2008-current/

(Not to mention it does not reach 160 MPH)

That link one of countless I found before making the statement

Looks a sweet ride your Buell - can only imagine the fun on the hills - if it had a streamlined fairing it might be inline with the TLS
in performance figures - but then you could just swap the elephant ear blinkers on the TLS for flush mount and it would pull
forward on the buell again nice looking property you have BTW. Don't want to split hairs both quick bikes but to say it out
performs a TLS stretching it a bit .....


Take it its only some buell's that have a bad reputation for reliability ? Seem to be the butt of all jokes at times - think recall seeing quite few lightning
or similar models on trade me that had full reconditioned motors at only around 30K - like the look of some of them - like their philosophy - good power to weight ......

Straight line, or race ability for handling is irrelevant on the road... The TL may 'do it' all over the Buell, MT, XR, VTR etc etc on the track and on paper. The public highway has absolutely no relevance to a track or drag strip, different cambers, different surfaces, roadside furniture, sheep shit, cow poo and the mentioned beasties wandering onto the highway, broken and pot holed surface,, then there's the rider abilities... The VTR from memory was the more 'user friendly' bike out of the 2 TL/VTR. Over the Taka's I would be surprised if the TL was far if at all in front of even my MT,, However that again comes down to rider ability, and I am no race rider. Motor wise the TL has it on paper, but usability of that available power? Thats where the balance sheet suddenly becomes different in so many cases.. I'd really put $5 on the engineer with the Buell being faster over the Taka'a or paekak, or even the back road run from Martinboro to Castle point. The power delivery on the road is simply more suitable for road riding. The condition of a road surface has been well quoted as affecting sport/semi race bike handling in an often noticeably negative manner.

[98tls]

Considering the Buell was built a decade after the TL if its not quicker than somebody fucked up,that aside wether it is or not is irrelevant really as posted above a bikes only as quick as the guy piloting it.

[ducatilover]

Straight line, or race ability for handling is irrelevant on the road... The TL may 'do it' all over the Buell, MT, XR, VTR etc etc on the track and on paper. The public highway has absolutely no relevance to a track or drag strip, different cambers, different surfaces, roadside furniture, sheep shit, cow poo and the mentioned beasties wandering onto the highway, broken and pot holed surface,, then there's the rider abilities... The VTR from memory was the more 'user friendly' bike out of the 2 TL/VTR. Over the Taka's I would be surprised if the TL was far if at all in front of even my MT,, However that again comes down to rider ability, and I am no race rider. Motor wise the TL has it on paper, but usability of that available power? Thats where the balance sheet suddenly becomes different in so many cases.. I'd really put $5 on the engineer with the Buell being faster over the Taka'a or paekak, or even the back road run from Martinboro to Castle point. The power delivery on the road is simply more suitable for road riding. The condition of a road surface has been well quoted as affecting sport/semi race bike handling in an often noticeably negative manner.

Useability of power is a big issue. But re-gearing a bike isn't hard...unless you have something with that belt thingy-ma-bob on the arse. My silly little bike is much more useable now I've re-geared except first as it just wants to play mono games.
I'm with 98tls' abpve comment about if it's not faster then somebody has been doing something wrong

I reckon the MT would be fairly quick between the corners on the 'takas with that ridiculous torque it has...

[98tls]

Useability of power is a big issue. But re-gearing a bike isn't hard...unless you have something with that belt thingy-ma-bob on the arse. My silly little bike is much more useable now I've re-geared except first as it just wants to play mono games.
I'm with 98tls' abpve comment about if it's not faster then somebody has been doing something wrong

I reckon the MT would be fairly quick between the corners on the 'takas with that ridiculous torque it has...

Bottom line is if Buells were all that then somebody would be financing the making of em,there similar to TLs in that respect ie Dinosours.

[Laava]

Yep, you,re kinda just splitting hairs really.
You have to go with what you really want at the end of the day. Can you get a reasonable test ride? That will be the seller. My mate flew to wanganui to test ride and then buy a brand new Thruxton. He was infatuated but one ride was too much and he flew home again.

Bottom line is if Buells were all that then somebody would be financing the making of em,there similar to TLs in that respect ie Dinosours.

Still in production as EBR. Not allowed to call them Buells as HD own the brand. But limited no,s and expensive like an italian bike!

[brp]

Good post wolf !

Nice example you got TLS - something bit different that colour did you put a bigger sprocket on the rear ?

Yeah Laava - test ride the real world ...