Twins with better performance than a 97 TL1000S?

**98tls** · 9th November 2012, 13:19

Originally Posted by brp

Good post wolf !

Nice example you got TLS - something bit different that colour

did you put a bigger sprocket on the rear ?

Yeah Laava - test ride the real world ...

It should be its had a fair amount of coin thrown at it over the years.Yep went +2 on the rear,much better,As for the colour some days i love it some i think "fuck this i am going to paint it black",quite rare in that colour so i guess that colour it will stay.

**Ocean1** · 9th November 2012, 16:25

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

Motor wise the TL has it on paper, but usability of that available power?

Actually, the 1125 has it on paper. 146hp vs 125 for the TL.

As for power useability, how many sportsbike engines can pull 70Nm all the way from 4500rpm to 10500 rpm?

But apparently extensive research shows it's shit, because it can't do 160mph.

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

I'd really put $5 on the engineer with the Buell being faster over the Taka'a or paekak, or even the back road run from Martinboro to Castle point.

Aye, nice roads on the 1125, but your $5 wouldn't be nescessarily be safe. I might have a damn fast bike but you know bloody well how much that means against a much better rider.

Originally Posted by Laava

You have to go with what you really want at the end of the day.

Amen. And by all means love your ride, but enjoy it for what is, there's always better machinery and there will always be better riders.

**Ocean1** · 9th November 2012, 16:27

Originally Posted by 98tls

It should be its had a fair amount of coin thrown at it over the years.Yep went +2 on the rear,much better,As for the colour some days i love it some i think "fuck this i am going to paint it black",quite rare in that colour so i guess that colour it will stay.

I like the colour. And at least you can change it, which is another thing it's got over a Buell.

**brp** · 9th November 2012, 17:40

Cheers TLS

Shit performance your words not mine ! Both quick bikes is what I said ...

Hood I'm from if ya put up and are proved wrong ya take it on the chin

If one bike is faster down the quarter and has a higher top speed it has better performance - period !

**Ocean1** · 9th November 2012, 18:09

Originally Posted by brp

Hood I'm from if ya put up and are proved wrong ya take it on the chin

Apparently you missed school that day. At least.

Originally Posted by brp

If one bike is faster down the quarter and has a higher top speed it has better performance - period !

Both Buell 1125 variants take less time to travel 1/4 mile than a TL.

And top speed isn't a measure of performance, it's a function of gearing.

But, y'now, you justify your prejudices your way, and I'll do it mine, eh?

Good luck, dude.

**bsasuper** · 9th November 2012, 20:01

If only the harle...opps buel looked as good as it went, because it sure is a butt ugly thing.(especially the rotax powered thing)

**98tls** · 9th November 2012, 21:32

Originally Posted by bsasuper

If only the harle...opps buel looked as good as it went, because it sure is a butt ugly thing.(especially the rotax powered thing)

Depends whos looking at it i guess eh.personally i like it.

**brp** · 10th November 2012, 20:20

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Apparently you missed school that day. At least.

Both Buell 1125 variants take less time to travel 1/4 mile than a TL.

And top speed isn't a measure of performance, it's a function of gearing.

But, y'now, you justify your prejudices your way, and I'll do it mine, eh?

Good luck, dude.

Dude keep beliving your own bullshit - I obviously didnt publish the 1/4 mile times all round the net showing your buell is a second down on a bike 13 years older.

Top speed not a measure of performance its a function of gearing lmfao - so right gearing on a nifty 50 will make it pull 160 mph

Engineer - yeah you one of those self proclaimed engineers - without a degree - thick as bat shit you have proven yourself to be !

I'm out of here - no what I'm buying

**neels** · 10th November 2012, 22:49

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

On paper my 83hp ducati is a waste of time, but oddly enough it keeps up with bikes with much better peak hp out there in the real world, and gets left behind by lower spec'd bikes piloted by riders with bigger balls than me.

Haven't ridden a tls but have ridden a statistically gutless buell, and having seen how you pilot your xr I would have thought it would be a perfect hooligan bike for you.

**bsasuper** · 11th November 2012, 06:24

Originally Posted by brp

Top speed not a measure of performance its a function of gearing lmfao - so right gearing on a nifty 50 will make it pull 160 mph

OHHHH NO NO NO

**GrayWolf** · 11th November 2012, 11:32

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Apparently you missed school that day. At least.

Both Buell 1125 variants take less time to travel 1/4 mile than a TL.

And top speed isn't a measure of performance, it's a function of gearing.

But, y'now, you justify your prejudices your way, and I'll do it mine, eh?

Good luck, dude.

Originally Posted by brp

Dude keep beliving your own bullshit - I obviously didnt publish the 1/4 mile times all round the net showing your buell is a second down on a bike 13 years older.

Top speed not a measure of performance its a function of gearing lmfao - so right gearing on a nifty 50 will make it pull 160 mph

Engineer - yeah you one of those self proclaimed engineers - without a degree - thick as bat shit you have proven yourself to be !

I'm out of here - no what I'm buying

Here we go, I AM (ex) an Engineer and I dont have a Degree either. I'm a Toolmaker, so I actually MADE the stuff that possibly some irk with a Degree had decided can be manufactured. Often only after much 'err' modification by those making and using the 'end product'.

Why is it track, drag strip performance is the quoted 'proof' that A bike is superior to B bike? As we have all agreed it's often the rider skill that dictates the 'winner' but as for max acceleration, speed etc?
Over the years there have been many 'underpowered' bikes that have bitten superior machines in the arse... I own a ZZR1100 and the MT, oh and still have an FJ1200 lurking in the back of the garage. The MT is at least 1.5seconds slower over a 1/4 mile than the ZZR and probably 70-80kph slower. Over the Taka's or the Wainui hill? it's bloody faster, thats the same rider (me) on both bikes. On the open road or a good highway of course the ZZR is faster. Then there's the FJ1200, less power older technology and slower than the ZZR... but to around 100-120 kph, the FJ wee's all over the ZZR for top 2 gears acceleration and its a much nicer bike to 'launch' or trickle through general traffic.... Now I owned a MG 1100 Cali in the mid 90's.. a UK bike Mag' road tested one with the Honda CBR1000 and in real world riding the Honda couldnt get past the Guzzi, the low/mid range stomp was too good for the revvier higher power jappa to power past in traffic situations.
Yeh the TL is faster in stat's and full out performance.... so what???

**mulletman** · 12th November 2012, 21:57

I quite liked the power and handleing of the 1125cr only problem for me is they're too small, the gauges were almost right under my chin and had to look down to see them, then theres that wicked
front brake that almost sends you over the bars. To me it needed some Pro tapers.