Kawasaki triple help?

[steve01]

hello people, im popping my forum cherry with this post.
ive just bought a go kart that came with a kawasaki triple on it.i think ive figured its a 1973 H1D,thats just going by the engine number.
ive heard these engines had a good bit of boogie and was wondering how much the motor would be worth?
i havent had it going yet im still trying to mount it in the frame.as far as i can tell to get it running all i need is the wiring between the points and the spark plugs.
basically i am just wondering if anyone knows if its worth me selling the motor to buy another (possibly more common,easier to find parts for motor) or stick with this one and source some parts.
any help would be greatly appreciated!
steve

[Ocean1]

It's probably worth a bit to an H1 owner. You're selling to a fairly small market, though so it might sit on TM for a while.

Whether it's better to keep it on the cart depends on how well it's been done. Does it have a good set of pipes? if not you're up for a fair bit right there.

If you do run it just don't fuck it. In particular make sure you get good air flow over those cylinders back there, especially the middle one.

[jellywrestler]

hello people, im popping my forum cherry with this post.
ive just bought a go kart that came with a kawasaki triple on it.i think ive figured its a 1973 H1D,thats just going by the engine number.
ive heard these engines had a good bit of boogie and was wondering how much the motor would be worth?
i havent had it going yet im still trying to mount it in the frame.as far as i can tell to get it running all i need is the wiring between the points and the spark plugs.
basically i am just wondering if anyone knows if its worth me selling the motor to buy another (possibly more common,easier to find parts for motor) or stick with this one and source some parts.
any help would be greatly appreciated!
steve

DITCH IT TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS IT, UNLESS YOU'RE SKILLED AT TWO STROKES AND MAKING EXHAUST PIPES YOU'LL ONLY HOLE A PISTON OR SEIZE IT BEFORE YOU GET IT SORTED THEN THROW IT OUT AND GET SOMETHING ELSE... oops caps on. And a blown motor ain't worth anything really

[steve01]

no i dont have pipes for it but ive got a mate that knows his shit with two stroke pipes and likes to to be paid for cashies in lion brown dollars so thats no issue.i have thought about putting it on tardme but like you say its selling to quite a small market,all i was wondering is if anyone actually had a rough idea what they were worth?

[GrayWolf]

no i dont have pipes for it but ive got a mate that knows his shit with two stroke pipes and likes to to be paid for cashies in lion brown dollars so thats no issue.i have thought about putting it on tardme but like you say its selling to quite a small market,all i was wondering is if anyone actually had a rough idea what they were worth?

an H1D? been many many years since I owned an H1, from memory, engines had H1E (engine) frame has H1F (frame)..... if it has points? I could be an early version, However as I found out in a heated debate with a Kiwi H1a owner (I owned mine in the UK) the H1a (UK) had the dreadful coil ignition system, NZ H1a's still had points. So really you need to research the actual full engine number (Kwaka triple owners site/club) to find the actual year and model. Early ones were quite a bit faster, but very very peaky.
Middlr pot can burn out plugs fequently, and WILL seize very easily if not set up correctly, timing, points, oil/fuel mix, plug grade and pipes. You can 'easily' damage the cranks as well, they are not the 'strongest' around. Research it and sell as a complete motor for restoration.. someone will either be rebuilding one somewhere, or, as has been seen in Europe,, hybrids get created. H1 motor LC350 frame was done with great results by a mechanic (Nick Smith) from Warlingham.
The advice you were given about selling it is probably the best, its a classic motor, and even if not highly valuable as a separate item, it will fetch a reasonable sum, or even a possible swap out for a better suited motor for the go kart.

[ellipsis]

...yeah...please consider selling it on to someone who really wants it for what it is...every motor of that vintage and that temperamentality are getting harder and harder to come by...that old jappy two stroke stuff is precious stuff...good karma for you...

[steve01]

thanks for the help guys,i am starting to lean towards selling or swapping for a more suitable motor.you wouldnt be keen on putting in an offer by any chance would you ellipsis?or does anyone know of any 400 or bigger motors more suited for a kart?

[jellywrestler]

thanks for the help guys,i am starting to lean towards selling or swapping for a more suitable motor.you wouldnt be keen on putting in an offer by any chance would you ellipsis?or does anyone know of any 400 or bigger motors more suited for a kart?

what ya looking for? a twin or four or what?

[steve01]

what ya looking for? a twin or four or what?

not exactly sure sorry mate.dont really know much about bike motors to tell the truth.just after a decent motor that will go well in the kart,just thought 400cc or above should have enough grunt to propel me round the paddock quite well.i would think a twin would be best i suppose because they would be physically a smaller size motor?
like i say mate as long as its got plently of boogie im not really fussed.

[GrayWolf]

not exactly sure sorry mate.dont really know much about bike motors to tell the truth.just after a decent motor that will go well in the kart,just thought 400cc or above should have enough grunt to propel me round the paddock quite well.i would think a twin would be best i suppose because they would be physically a smaller size motor?
like i say mate as long as its got plently of boogie im not really fussed.

what you will need to look at is either new mounts or mounting plates being made to suit any replacement engine.... My suggestion though, would be look at a 500-650cc single. Smaller footprint, and a single will have plenty of low down grunt... and probably plenty enough top speed for a paddock racer.

[Sable]

Don't waste such a valuable and delicate motor on a go kart. Please.

[ktm84mxc]

Sell the H1a motor to some one who will appreciate it for what it is, I'd be wanting electric start so go for a GB500,XT600, DR600 motor and the gearing will be close to what you need also.