Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

[Pixie]

An interesting thing I observed over several trips to Napier from AK in the car and bike was that to achieve the same average speed the car had to be driven much more aggressively and hit higher peak speeds than the bike.
The bike trips were more relaxing and less likely to draw the attention of cops.
Of couse, if you go apeshit.....

[justsomeguy]

WTF???!!
Go and wash your mouth out. Mate if you cant ride round a 30k corner on your bike quicker than a car I think its time you reconsidered your options here. You cant be a fence sitter, you're either a boy racer or your ride bikes, not both.
And whats with all this missing out on rides to go with your gay car club cruises?
Something not right here. Dont get me wrong, you are a good bloke JSG, but cars faster than your bike round corners.. sheesh. If your name was Sebastian Loeb I would say yeah no worries... but it aint.

Well I'm no where as good a rider as you are. I've been riding regularly for about 7 months now and I ride a slow ZZR250. I've been driving for 3 years regularly and about 4-5 years in all - so yeah I can drive faster than I can ride.

Maybe by the time I get my full license I will be able to ride my bike faster than I can drive.

I've only missed one KB ride to go for a club drive. By the way I'm one of the youngest people on my club drives most of them are easily twice my age and all have some amount of motorsport experience. Our Auckland club co-ordinator is a veteran of over 30 rallies as a driver or navigator and used to work as a driver transporting the press for the NZ WRC from stage to stage.

A lot of them can do 47-49 around Taupo in pretty standard MR2's. You will only find us once a month out somewhere in the hills and you'd never catch us doing laps of Queen St. I'm not a boy racer in the way the media depicts them - I hate those stupid donut making, drag racing fools, who mess up their cars with stupid mods.

I love both cars and bikes mate and I'm not making no apologies for this.

[WINJA]

I DRIVE VERY SLOW IN A CAR BUT ON A BIKE I FEEL AT HOME, IVE DONE AN INDICATED 300KMH IN THE RAIN AND IT FELT OK . CARS ARE SHIT , TO ME A CAR IS A BOX ON WHEELS

[justsomeguy]

I DRIVE VERY SLOW IN A CAR BUT ON A BIKE I FEEL AT HOME, IVE DONE AN INDICATED 300KMH IN THE RAIN AND IT FELT OK . CARS ARE SHIT , TO ME A CAR IS A BOX ON WHEELS

Really? What's the best car you've driven down a lonely, twisty country road??

[WINJA]

Really? What's the best car you've driven down a lonely, twisty country road??

IVE OWNED A GTX 1.8 TURBO FAMILIA, CELICA TURBO, AND BEST OF ALL RX3 COUPE WITH WORKED RX7 MOTOR AND BOX, BUT THEY ARE ALL SHIT , THE YEAR I OWNED MY GTX I ALSO HAD A NEW BLADE,I DID ABOUT 30,000 KM ON THE BLADE THAT YEAR AND ABOUT 1000KM OR LESS IN THE CAR MOST OF THOSE CAR KM WERE THRU SCENIC DRIVE , BIG YAWN GIMME A BIKE

[mikey]

my car previous to riding a bike was a R32 skyline, slightly modded, no stupidly modded acutally, running far to much boost,

i would say that i drove a lot looser, (something to do with having music going?) drivn in the rain? FUCK YEAH, car would drift when i wasnt even trying, but on the whole i wouldn say i drove faster, my faster is a reference to time not what speeds you got to. the bike might top out a bit before the skyline would, but on the whole measuring how quick i can get from wellington city to lake ferry, , the bike has it.

go the bike.

but fuck was the skyline fun.
if i had the choice i would go R32 godzilla rather than a new litre sports bike.

[justsomeguy]

IVE OWNED A GTX 1.8 TURBO FAMILIA, CELICA TURBO, AND BEST OF ALL RX3 COUPE WITH WORKED RX7 MOTOR AND BOX, BUT THEY ARE ALL SHIT , THE YEAR I OWNED MY GTX I ALSO HAD A NEW BLADE,I DID ABOUT 30,000 KM ON THE BLADE THAT YEAR AND ABOUT 1000KM OR LESS IN THE CAR MOST OF THOSE CAR KM WERE THRU SCENIC DRIVE , BIG YAWN GIMME A BIKE

Hehehehe - you're one of those fellows used to a thou - so I guess you'd need a top shelf ferrari or one of those Top Secret tuned cars to even feel awake.......

A simple SV650 will leave a Ferrari behind in a straight line...can't imagine what your gixxers do.. can't wait till I become a fast rider.

[justsomeguy]

but fuck was the skyline fun.
if i had the choice i would go R32 godzilla rather than a new litre sports bike.

I'd still take a bike - but if it was a car - it'd be a AW11 Toyota MR2 with a 3SGTE with a bigger turbo and a supercharger with the required strengtened running gear. That should be able to keep up with a modern 600 on most roads given a rider and driver of equal ability.

[forty two]

I would have to say that with riding it's something about being out in the elements, being rain sun whatever but not "shelted" within the confines of a cage. The wind in your face, sounds and smells from the country, or the suburbs at dinner time. Speed has been known to increase slightly at certain times during a ride but it's the freedom, non-security blanket, by yourself, concentration, ah, everyone has their reasons.
There is a place and time obviously for cage driving but it tends to be a mode of transport rather than a experience.

[justsomeguy]

I would have to say that with riding it's something about being out in the elements, being rain sun whatever but not "shelted" within the confines of a cage. The wind in your face, sounds and smells from the country, or the suburbs at dinner time. Speed has been known to increase slightly at certain times during a ride but it's the freedom, non-security blanket, by yourself, concentration, ah, everyone has their reasons.
There is a place and time obviously for cage driving but it tends to be a mode of transport rather than a experience.

Well said.

[WINJA]

Hehehehe - you're one of those fellows used to a thou - so I guess you'd need a top shelf ferrari or one of those Top Secret tuned cars to even feel awake.......

A simple SV650 will leave a Ferrari behind in a straight line...can't imagine what your gixxers do.. can't wait till I become a fast rider.

MY MATE USED TO OWN THE FAIRLANE CALLED "LIFE IN THE FAST LANE" 429 COBRA JET WITH SUPERCHARGER , I COULDNT FEEL IT ACCELRATE CAUSE IVE BEEN DESENSITIZED BY THE BIKE , THINK ABOUT IT APU , ON MY WAY HOME I HIT 300 IN A FEW PLACES AND DROP ABOUT 50 OR 60 TEN SECOND QUARTER MILES LEAVING SOME CORNERS ,AND THATS JUST GETTING A BOTTLE OF MILK, YEAH EVERYTHING ELSE FEELS SLOW.

[justsomeguy]

MY MATE USED TO OWN THE FAIRLANE CALLED "LIFE IN THE FAST LANE" 429 COBRA JET WITH SUPERCHARGER , I COULDNT FEEL IT ACCELRATE CAUSE IVE BEEN DESENSITIZED BY THE BIKE , THINK ABOUT IT APU , ON MY WAY HOME I HIT 300 IN A FEW PLACES AND DROP ABOUT 50 OR 60 TEN SECOND QUARTER MILES LEAVING SOME CORNERS ,AND THATS JUST GETTING A BOTTLE OF MILK, YEAH EVERYTHING ELSE FEELS SLOW.

Know what you mean - but we're talking about apples and oranges - the delivery of g-forces, feeling the harness straining against your chest, one hand on the wheel the other on the gear lever, feet busy heel and toeing, your head being pushed into the seat as you floor it, praying that you don't need to use the roll cage and feeling the front end go light and back end go light on a bike, getting your knee down and having your head about a meter from the road are all different sensations and both are given the time and place equally enjoyable.

[NhuanH]

...the delivery of g-strings, feeling the harness straining against your chest, one hand on the wheel the other on the knob, feet busy heel and toeing, your head being pushed into the lap...feeling the front end go light and his back end...and having your head about a meter from his XXXX are all different sensations and both are given the time and place equally enjoyable.

sheeite, I thought this was bikes vs. cages??

[WINJA]

Know what you mean - but we're talking about apples and oranges - the delivery of g-forces, feeling the harness straining against your chest, one hand on the wheel the other on the gear lever, feet busy heel and toeing, your head being pushed into the seat as you floor it, praying that you don't need to use the roll cage and feeling the front end go light and back end go light on a bike, getting your knee down and having your head about a meter from the road are all different sensations and both are given the time and place equally enjoyable.

YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO DOESNT DO STOPIES AT 150 KMH GOING INTO A CORNER OR SLIDES THE REAR AT 150KMH COMING OUT , YOU MIGHT NEED TO COME FOR A DOUBLE BITCH, HAVE YOU EVER GONE INTO A CORNER SO HOT JUST TO LET THE FRONT SCRUB OFF THE SPEED WITHOUT TOUCHING THE BRAKES SO THE GOEMETRY STAYS THE SAME AND THE BIKE GOES PERFECTLY ROUND THE CORNER WHILE THE GUY BEHIND YOU CRASHES CAUSE HE WAS WAITING FOR YOUR BRAKE LIGHT, BET YA DONT , I PRACTICED HARD RIDING ON MY 250 SO NO EXCUSES GO EXCITE YOURSELF,
CARS SUCK UNLESS THEIR A VAN TO PICK UP THE CRASHED BIKE

[justsomeguy]

YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO DOESNT DO STOPIES AT 150 KMH GOING INTO A CORNER OR SLIDES THE REAR AT 150KMH COMING OUT , YOU MIGHT NEED TO COME FOR A DOUBLE BITCH, HAVE YOU EVER GONE INTO A CORNER SO HOT JUST TO LET THE FRONT SCRUB OFF THE SPEED WITHOUT TOUCHING THE BRAKES SO THE GOEMETRY STAYS THE SAME AND THE BIKE GOES PERFECTLY ROUND THE CORNER WHILE THE GUY BEHIND YOU CRASHES CAUSE HE WAS WAITING FOR YOUR BRAKE LIGHT, BET YA DONT , I PRACTICED HARD RIDING ON MY 250 SO NO EXCUSES GO EXCITE YOURSELF,
CARS SUCK UNLESS THEIR A VAN TO PICK UP THE CRASHED BIKE

Nope sorry ........ I'm a useless slow rider despite having 7 months weekend country riding experience.... and my bike doesn't like it above 140 anyway.....Need some more practice.