Grid lock and bicycle lanes

[rastuscat]

For the record, I think the roads and cyclists would be safer without cycle lanes.

They cause cyclists to think they can cycle up the left of a line of stationary vehicles with the expectation that nobody will cross their path. How wrong can you be.

[arcane12]

And to mention one last thing, without going overboard on details, motorbikes can use transit lanes, but not bus only lanes (unless the lane is only restricted to buses during specific hours, outside of which it reverts to it's usual rules).

I can google it and post the exact wording (or you could do it yourself), but I looked it up recently (I wanted to know what the rules were for motorbikes and T2 and T3 lanes (I need to stop using parentheses, it's a curse)).

[f2dz]

I doubt your insurance would cover you either if you somehow had an accident inside a cycle lane. What's wrong with riding down the right side of cars when it's gridlocked, within the lane, providng there's space? That's legal.

[willytheekid]

For the record, I think the roads and cyclists would be safer without cycle lanes.

They cause cyclists to think they can cycle up the left of a line of stationary vehicles with the expectation that nobody will cross their path. How wrong can you be.

+1

As far as using bike lanes goes
The results speak volumes!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...h-ch-rush-hour (this kid was DAMN lucky he got off so light)

And then theres my idiot work mate who just dosn't learn!
Last year on his scooter....speeding down the bike lane...and didn't even think about the turning traffic! = Hit a car turning through stationary traffic
Last Month on his 1800cc cruiser...speeding down the bike lane...and once again!!...hit a car turining through stationary traffic
(as stated...he's an idiot!)
Three perfect examples of why using a bike lane AND riding down the left side of traffic may cost you MUCH more than a $1000 fine!

I use bus lanes...I freely admit that...but it is legal to do so in ChCh**, but Im DAMN cautious about it and ALWAYS slow right the fuck down when approaching a side road...I like being able to walk...and breath!

** I got stopped by an unmarked POPO car for cruising down a bus lane (well, a hand came out the window and gestured "please come see me for a "talk" lol)...pulled up beside him, and the officer said it was illegal, I replyed "no sir...it is legal", and pulled a piece of paper out of the tank bag with the ChCh council bus lane laws on it...officer read it, passed it to his mate, both laughed and said "Well, that clears that up eh...you have a nice day mate".
...POPO are just people too, they can't be expected to know EVERY tiny little detail of the law (Hell...I didnt even realise I could legally use certain marked bus lanes for YEARS!...hence the piece of paper)

Ride safe Kbers

ps:...Rastus...are you EVER going to share with us what new toy you bought? (My $'s on another churman steed )...this is after all, a biker site!...and we likes seeing shiny new bikes

[JimO]

Cyclists seem to mind, they tell you off when they catch up to you at the red light.

when was the last time a cyclist stopped at a red light

[Akzle]

even on a motobike, i dislike cyclists with a passion.
fuck em and their lanes.

carry a 4 foot length of garden hose, in any vehicle. y'know.. for when they need it.

[strandedinnz]

even on a motobike, i dislike cyclists with a passion.
fuck em and their lanes.

carry a 4 foot length of garden hose, in any vehicle. y'know.. for when they need it.

You like giving them a surprise colonic irrigation ?

[nzspokes]

Cyclists seem to mind, they tell you off when they catch up to you at the red light.

Maybe if you road faster them they do they wouldnt catch you.....

[imac]

when was the last time a cyclist stopped at a red light

I did this morning about 5 times

[Scuba_Steve]

Just to clarify, motorcycle and mopeds can't legally use cycle lanes.

Happy to go into a whole long winded debate Skoober, but it's pointless.

no, no you are right. I just hadn't properly checked it out (never been of interest to me) but you are right... So best to just stick to Bus & Transit lanes if ya want to use "special lanes"

[Flip]

I rushed the message this morning coz I was heading out the door on the way to work. I left out a minor detail.

Power assisted pedal cycles can use cycle lanes legally. Anything from a moped and upward can't.

D719 Unauthorised use of special vehicle lane
Land Transport Act 1998, s.40 & Offences & Penalties Regs 1999, r4 & 2.3(1)(f) Road User Rule 2004
Maximum fine = $1,000, Maximum prison = 0, Minimum disqualification = 0, Notice type = N/T
SP1 Being the driver of a vehicle on a road used a special vehicle lane reserved for a specific class or classes of vehicle other than the one being driven.

Just to clarify, motorcycle and mopeds can't legally use cycle lanes.

Happy to go into a whole long winded debate Skoober, but it's pointless.

Well thats your interpretation of a traffic regulation.

[pritch]

Depends what I'm riding; the moped is completely different to the bike.

We don't get "gridlock" locally but if the traffic stops, on the moped, cycle lanes, footpaths, and driveways all come into play. Whatever it takes to keep moving.

One day I might get a fine but I've been doing it for years. And I won't write about the fine here and give y'all the satisfaction.

[rastuscat]

no, no you are right. I just hadn't properly checked it out (never been of interest to me) but you are right... So best to just stick to Bus & Transit lanes if ya want to use "special lanes"

Cheers Skoober. Gonna print that post and frame it.

In Chur Chur the bus lanes are established under local body law I.e. the CCC. They allow buses, taxis, motorcycles and cycles. The cycle lanes only allow cyclists.

I understand the rules are different up North, it depends on what legislation established the lanes.

[rastuscat]

Well thats your interpretation of a traffic regulation.

Correct. What's yours?

[scumdog]

You like giving them a surprise colonic irrigation ?

Nah, he's just a blow-hard-rebel-without-a-clue...