Grid lock and bicycle lanes

[Jeff Sichoe]

But using the cyclists as a test case, they banded together (unknowingly it would seem) and conspired to make the Police's job harder (by being difficult when it came to handing over I.D Cards / Personal Information) and the end result was that now the Police 'cant be bothered' following up that particular law.

So the moral of the story is to be a difficult cunt, tell your mates to be the same, and at the end of the day the Police will give up because that's what they seem to do?

[Akzle]

By being a dick to the cops means that they're just going to create more trouble for you. Why not give them your details, and be on your merry way a few minutes later, rather than creating trouble just for the sake of it and having a court appearance over something entirely preventable?

I generally find that if I'm nice and polite to police that they return the favour. They have a shit job to do most of the time dealing with fuckwits all day, so a little courtesy goes a long way.

And I'm a cyclist because it's either that or walking, or taking a bus (which I can't afford). I don't really have a choice in the matter.

the other guy has it.
i don't accept the jurisdiction of the cops, so i don't feel the civic duty to make their life easy. yes, there are cunts, but that speaks more to their own cuntery than mine, seeing as i live without doing harm, if they feel the need to waste their (and my) time and resources with no positive outcome for anyone......
better work stories!

[SMOKEU]

the other guy has it.
i don't accept the jurisdiction of the cops, so i don't feel the civic duty to make their life easy. yes, there are cunts, but that speaks more to their own cuntery than mine, seeing as i live without doing harm, if they feel the need to waste their (and my) time and resources with no positive outcome for anyone......
better work stories!

If you don't accept the jurisdiction of the NZ Police, then who would you call if some cunt rips your house off or nicks off with your ride, or rapes your ho?

[rok-the-boat]

If you don't accept the jurisdiction of the NZ Police, then who would you call if some cunt rips your house off or nicks off with your ride, or rapes your ho?

Someone robbed my neighbour's house a couple of years back. they called the cops but did they come? Nope. Two days later some cop representative appeared - told them to file a claim. Were they interested in taking fingerprints or asking lots of questions? Nope. Just file a claim. Freaking useless. The cops are just happy to sit in the cars, catching old grannies doing 31 in the 30 limit to help raise money and to boost their crime stats up.

[SMOKEU]

Someone robbed my neighbour's house a couple of years back. they called the cops but did they come? Nope. Two days later some cop representative appeared - told them to file a claim. Were they interested in taking fingerprints or asking lots of questions? Nope. Just file a claim. Freaking useless. The cops are just happy to sit in the cars, catching old grannies doing 31 in the 30 limit to help raise money and to boost their crime stats up.

Yup, and if you encounter an intruder in your house and hold them at gunpoint until the police arrive, then you're the criminal and the burglar is the victim!

[Akzle]

If you don't accept the jurisdiction of the NZ Police, then who would you call if some cunt rips your house off or nicks off with your ride, or rapes your ho?

i'm the only ho raper around here.
we've done this before, DO NO HARM. as soon as you're doing harm, you're smack bang under the jurisdiction of my 12ga, or the police, but i'm probably going to get there quicker.

similar stories to the above. police have never done anything for my benefit (nor anyone i know)
they're a fucking waste of your money.

[Mushu]

.....I generally find that if I'm nice and polite to police that they return the favour. They have a shit job to do most of the time dealing with fuckwits all day, so a little courtesy goes a long way......

I will admit that I am polite to the cops (the only time I ever address anyone as sir) but that is specifically to keep them from pushing me around to prove their authority.

But the shit job argument is no defense, there are far more people doing shit jobs than just the police. Try being an apprentice anything, or a plumber who literally works in shit, these people can't half ass their jobs cos they're shit, why should the cops be able to? And how many more jobs are there out there that allow you to put someone who gives you trouble in handcuffs.

Cops are very well paid as I understand. The police are trained (even during training they a very well paid) and can always leave and get another job.

[Hubris]

I'll bump this old tread, as I've just received an infraction for lane splitting on the left side of cars (ie the designated bicycle lane). As others have said, it makes sense from a traffic flow standpoint, it can be done safely without impacting cyclists, however it is a "Lane offence infringement" if they're enforcing things

[sleemanj]

I'll bump this old tread, as I've just received an infraction for lane splitting on the left side of cars (ie the designated bicycle lane). As others have said, it makes sense from a traffic flow standpoint, it can be done safely without impacting cyclists, however it is a "Lane offence infringement" if they're enforcing things

Jiminey, thread dredge enough to even wake me up from a zombie slumber.

If you want to try fighting it, back on page 3 I posted a snip from the law, you could try (rather in vain I suspect, but maybe worth a shot) to argue the normal lane was obstructed and your use of the lane was done in a safe manner, and then it wouldn't be an offence, or at least it would be a defence to the offence.

That's only gonna have any chance of success if the traffic was actually stopped and therefore blocking the lane.

[rastuscat]

Jiminey, thread dredge enough to even wake me up from a zombie slumber.

If you want to try fighting it, back on page 3 I posted a snip from the law, you could try (rather in vain I suspect, but maybe worth a shot) to argue the normal lane was obstructed and your use of the lane was done in a safe manner, and then it wouldn't be an offence, or at least it would be a defence to the offence.

That's only gonna have any chance of success if the traffic was actually stopped and therefore blocking the lane.

You've identified some wind to piss into.

[babysteps]

I was at a public event that you attended Rastus Cat. You were in uniform and the question of bike lanes was raised directly to you. Your reply was that it was acceptable as long as it was within 50mtrs of an intersection or traffic light.

Could you please clarify that.

[Akzle]

You've identified some wind to piss into.

you are just on top form recently there rastarse. new hooker or at the shop something?

[Berries]

I was at a public event that you attended Rastus Cat. You were in uniform and the question of bike lanes was raised directly to you. Your reply was that it was acceptable as long as it was within 50mtrs of an intersection or traffic light.

Could you please clarify that.

Rather than rely on an ex cop for legal information (no offence) why not read the Road User Rule and get to grips with what it says.

Try Section 2.3(4) for the 50m reference - http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...DLM303043.html

[FJRider]

I'll bump this old tread, as I've just received an infraction for lane splitting on the left side of cars (ie the designated bicycle lane). As others have said, it makes sense from a traffic flow standpoint, it can be done safely without impacting cyclists, however it is a "Lane offence infringement" if they're enforcing things

Forget about whinging on here about technicalities of the law. Pay the fucking fine and shut the fuck up ... or join the big boys world in court.

[Akzle]

Forget about whinging on here about technicalities of the law. Pay the fucking fine and shut the fuck up ... or join the big boys world in court.

now that's a rather defeatist attitude...