Tazers

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=vifferman]I think it would be a shame if NZ became like the US. I found it objectionable 'gangs' of cops gathering around single 'perpetrators', shouting at them (which would be bloody confusing), then tazering them when they didn't instantly comply. What if the person was just Joe Public, innocent of whatever the police thought he/she had done, and was not happy with being treated like this and was so to comply?

Good call. I missed the programme itself, but if it gets like USA, last one out turn off the lights, there would be many that would leave...

I have never had to wrestle/baton/spray/handcuff/arrest any "innocent" in 20 years. You can talk to the innocent, they are bloody good to have a yarn with, because they have nothing to hide or worry about...you sure won't taze them! (Or go ourt of your way to piss them off!!!???...

[Patrick]

Once arrest is justified force can be used to affect the arrest if necessary. The level of force required is largely up to the person resisting.

Sums it up really...inncoents don't get to that stage!

[Ixion]

Sums it up really...inncoents don't get to that stage!

Hmm. I remember some clowns who would have disagreed with that in 1981

[Monsterbishi]

Want to see something fun, build your own tazer circuit, it's easy enough to use a few watch cells and it can all easily fit into a table tennis ball... ever seen someone try to catch 100,000V :-)

[Pixie]

She's so busy screaming and thrashing around she doesn't comply with his request to put her hands out so she can be handcuffed, so he zaps her again.
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I saw the clip...the jiggling became quite hypnotic

[Pixie]

We have to think about the weapons we are giving to people who may be described as having dubious morality and intelligence.
I'm refering to the news tonight of the police recruit being sprung as a rapist of a prostitute.
His lack of morals go without saying.
Getting fingerprinted shows his intelligence.
The senior cop said he was someone the police would prefer not to have in their ranks
WTF!!! prefer not to have!!!
I suppose it makes a change catching a sex criminal before he gets into the police

[Indoo]

Pixie go get some advice from Lou, that was the most blatant troll I have ever seen.

If you want someone to rise to the bait at least you have to make it at least remotely tempting, that pathetic attempt just insults your own intelligence.

Seriously please ask him for some help, I hate seeing you look like his downs syndrome twin.

[Lou Girardin]

This started as a thread on Tazers and has ended in 'stop picking on the poor cops'.
Look at your public standing guys and get your heads out of the sand.
Your profession has been terribly served by the people who are being promoted to senior rank. That clown Beckett on the report about the rapist recruit is just the latest of many dumb comments.
Like the continual refrain that speed was the cause of these boy racer accidents. Stupidity is the cause, speed was a factor.
If you want to get back public respect it's going to have to be driven by ordinary cops, your bosses don't have the balls to face the Government.

[scumdog]

This started as a thread on Tazers and has ended in 'stop picking on the poor cops'.
Look at your public standing guys and get your heads out of the sand.
Your profession has been terribly served by the people who are being promoted to senior rank. That clown Beckett on the report about the rapist recruit is just the latest of many dumb comments.
Like the continual refrain that speed was the cause of these boy racer accidents. Stupidity is the cause, speed was a factor.
If you want to get back public respect it's going to have to be driven by ordinary cops, your bosses don't have the balls to face the Government.

Tell it to somebody that CAN do something about it!

In the meantime get me my Tazer!!

[spudchucka]

Look at your public standing guys and get your heads out of the sand.

The 2002 survey showed 76% had either "full" or "quite a lot" of trust and confidence in the police. Only 5% had little or no trust and confidence. See attached graph.

This has remained reasonably constant between 1997 & 2002. Unfortunately a quick search hasn't come up with any recent relevant survey results. If Lou wants to post something "relevant" that is to the contrary he should go ahead.

1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002

% % % % % %
Satisfied/Very satisfied 77 80 74 74 77 72
Neutral 10 9 11 14 10 11
Dissatisfied/Very dissatisfied 13 10 13 12 13 17

On the face of these figures I would say that the situation is not as dire as dear old Lou would have people believe.

[Wolf]

The senior cop said he was someone the police would prefer not to have in their ranks
WTF!!! prefer not to have!!!

That's PC for you - back in the day he could have said "We don't want scum like that in our ranks" but these days the PC brigade would have his arse in a sling for calling the poor underprivileged, misunderstood, broken-homed "differently-sexual" person "scum", so he's got to phrase it "diplomatically".

[spudchucka]

But when you look at it objectively like you have it negates an opportunity to score some cheap points against the filth. Hence Lou and pixie are incapable of removing their FTP googles for long enough to see what you have.

[Wolf]

But when you look at it objectively like you have it negates an opportunity to score some cheap points against the filth. Hence Lou and pixie are incapable of removing their FTP googles for long enough to see what you have.

Oh. Sorry. Will try to be less objective in future.

[Lias]

Hmm. I remember some clowns who would have disagreed with that in 1981

If you genuinely believe the springbok protesters were innocent, you are looking through some seriously rose tinted glasses.

Some probably were innocent, and trying to peacefully protest, but there were definitly segments of the protestors that were there to cause trouble, and were willing to use violence. Lets not forget the destruction of the fences at rugby park, the flour bombing plane, and the ones who tried to use physical force to stop people attending the games.

Lets not forget that even the "innocent" protesters were still breaching the law with regards to unlawful assembly & breach of the peace. The riot squads were fully justified in using force to disperse the crowd. I personally believe that for the most part the cops were pretty restrained in their use of force. Hell lets face it I'm not the greatest fan of law enforcement, but if i'd been in their shoes i'd have kicked the everloving snot out of those protestors.

[Patrick]

If you genuinely believe the springbok protesters were innocent, you are looking through some seriously rose tinted glasses.

Some probably were innocent, and trying to peacefully protest, but there were definitly segments of the protestors that were there to cause trouble, and were willing to use violence. Lets not forget the destruction of the fences at rugby park, the flour bombing plane, and the ones who tried to use physical force to stop people attending the games. etc...well said too by the way...

There were protesters there with shields that had nails and razor blades sticking out of them...And the firefudge that was thrown??? (Firefudge is a phosphorous fire...water can't put it out, just scrape it off as quick as poss and treat the burns is all you can do...peaceful protest???? Yeah, right... As for the Clowns, what part of "Move" didn't they understand???