Tazers

[sAsLEX]

yeah would have agree with that, i herd training as young as 17yrs . I would be in favour of guns just like u, but can we really trust them that's the police.

Think the amount of training they would be get would be enough for them to handle it (guns).

But the question is can New Zealand public handle it. See the hassle that looser that got himself shot in Waitra caused!

[Edbear]

That's PC for you - back in the day he could have said "We don't want scum like that in our ranks" but these days the PC brigade would have his arse in a sling for calling the poor underprivileged, misunderstood, broken-homed "differently-sexual" person "scum", so he's got to phrase it "diplomatically".

And you have to listen for the undertone of irony or sarcasm in his voice as well.

[Shadows]

Nah I reckon shoot the fuckers.
Then they don't cost the tax payer $50,000 a year to be kept in a $600,000 cell.

[diggydog]

But the question is can New Zealand public handle it. See the hassle that looser that got himself shot in Waitra caused!
____WILL THAT'S TRUE, YOU WOULD GET PEOPLE UP IN ARMS OVER THE SMALLEST THING THAT WENT WRONG______________

[MD]

Will crims get away over winter because of the usual power shortage?
4000 Cops running around dispensing 50,000 volts or whatever. Piss off, I want my water heating left on.
Some good pros and cons raised on here. Of course a zap is better than a bullet in a situation where a bullet (OK many bullets) would have been used. What worries me is the not so perfect policeman, who enjoys the power trip, in a bad mood, who you meet in a dark alley with no witnesses, who now has the means to enforce his opinion on you big time, where before using a gun was out of the question. Now he has an alternative.
But it's Ok the Govt will protect us and make sure, just like our taxes only go to good causes, that tazers will only be used for good causes.

Who saw that poor pig getting zapped in the trials on tonight's One News . That was animal cruelty at it's worse. Couldn't they have 'persuaded' some hand picked prisoners to volunteer. Far more deserving of the suffering than an animal that's done nothing wrong and will have no undestanding of why it's being tortured. Yeah I eat meat, but I still object to the deliberate inflicting of pain on animals for the sake of science or in this case commercial gain.

[Smorg]

Look at all the trouble the cops get in now without Tazer's.....Pepper spraying people who are already subdued, writing "arsehole" as occupation on speeding tickets.
Think of all the shit they could get themselves into with Tazers.

[Lou Girardin]

Yeah the cops have sure proved that they're responsible enough to use pepper spray. So let's give them tasers.
And the senior cop running the trial should try and remember what he says;
last year he said they'd use tasers to ensure compliance (get out of your car ma'am), now he says they won't.
And if they're so harmless, why is the manufactureres warning on their use so specific as to the risk of death or injury?

[Swoop]

This "trial" is the same sham that was used when NZ "trialled" speed cameras.... ("to see if they would be of use here")

Get used to seeing them people...

[Swoop]

My personal standard is that the Police are entitled to outgun anyone in society if required. THEY need to be safe in order to be expected to keep US safe... that's reasonable innit?

Then perhaps the ecilops would like to concentrate more on law enforcement instead of revenue gathering???
Cops that cannot respond to criminal or life threatening incidents because they have a bike pulled over and are writing out a ticket...

Then we have the other problem of the skill level of general duties branch officers using firearms.

[Ixion]

My prediction is that the greatest use of Tazers will be, not on violent criminals or deranged P addicts, but on law abiding demonstrators and protesters.

[Finn]

My prediction is that the greatest use of Tazers will be, not on violent criminals or deranged P addicts, but on law abiding demonstrators and protesters.

I sure hope so. This country is full of professional demonstators and protesters, some of which make it into Government. They should all be tazered to death.

[ManDownUnder]

Then perhaps the ecilops would like to concentrate more on law enforcement instead of revenue gathering???

I'm quite sure they would.

(laddies and ladies in blue, correct me if I'm wrong here - but...) The police are underfunded so they contract to the LTSA to provide traffic duties.

While they should be busting crims, they have to be out enforcing the anal retentive directives of Mr Knacker-Steed like the 11kph over the limit rule.

Give the Police more funding, tell the LTSA to do their own damned dirty work (and let's face it - it pays for itself!) and we're all happy.

Cops that cannot respond to criminal or life threatening incidents because they have a bike pulled over and are writing out a ticket...

Then we have the other problem of the skill level of general duties branch officers using firearms.

Put the pay rate up, make the acceptance criteria of the Police higher and we're all onto a winner - no?

Where's the money coming from? You and me - short term. Longer term it still comes from you and me but there will be less people in prison so the costs aren't so high.

Am I the only one that thinks this would work?

[spudchucka]

Yeah the cops have sure proved that they're responsible enough to use pepper spray.

Correct. Or are you being facetious again?

So let's give them tasers.

Thanks, appreciate it.

And the senior cop running the trial should try and remember what he says;
last year he said they'd use tasers to ensure compliance (get out of your car ma'am), now he says they won't.

Last night on campbell Live he denied that quote was his and says that it has been falsely attributed to him. He ensured Campbell that they would not be used for that purpose.

And if they're so harmless, why is the manufactureres warning on their use so specific as to the risk of death or injury?

Any form of force used against a person has risks associated to it but the warnings are more to do with the companies need to protect itself from litigation.

[spudchucka]

My prediction is that the greatest use of Tazers will be, not on violent criminals or deranged P addicts, but on law abiding demonstrators and protesters.

Is that why Minto has been to all the rallies?

[Pixie]

Cops should have guns.
It's only the threat of killing someone that makes most cops think twice about using the gun as a coercive tool.
Non lethal weapons are too easily used to punish "contemp of cop" behaviour