Rusty Nuts Grand Challenge 2005

**RiderInBlack** · 16th September 2005, 19:50

Originally Posted by Groins_NZ

Hey RiderinBlack, question for ya...

Did you stop very often during the ride or just for fuel stops?

Cheers.

Three times. Once cause I was busting for a pee. Ever tried pissing in the wind with a whole lot of bikers stopping to see if your OK

One cause I had managed to get myself lost

(and another biker that was tailing me

), so I needed to reread the map and The Rusty Instructions (costed me 1/2 an hour that

). The only other time was to have another pee, put my contacts back in and change back into wet weather gear around 11:30pm-12 midnight, cause Heuy was bucketing down again

So not any planned stops

Here's something for you guys to do. Next ride you go on (not a hoon "racing" after other bikes ride, but at a cruisey pace you would do to go any long distancesworkout your Average Speed (Including the time it takes you to refuel) and then use this as a V.Ruff estimate for how long you would take to do the GC. While you are doing this just see how long you to have to maintain you top speed to make up for spending too much time getting fuel, going though 50KPM zones, road works, waiting to get past traffic, and going through tight twisties. I found to maintain an average of 80KPH (Including Refueling Time), which would see you do the GC in 20hours, I had to pick up the pace a fair bit and would have got me a few good tickets in places. I also found that I could best make up time by leaving my fuel stops as close as practial to my bike's range, not wasting too much time fueling. Just fill the bike, use the toilet (saves time having to stop again cause you are brusting and your tank is only 1/2 empty), pay the man, have a very quick snack, get on the bike and go. The slowest average speed you could do this at is 66.66'KPM ((Including Refueling Time, and leaves you nothing for error).
Have fun

**Warr** · 16th September 2005, 20:08

Another one for you... RIB ...
1. What did you eat and drink ?
2. Did you buy or carry it with you ?
Blackbird says he ate nuts and stuff ..Yum err

... so just wondered what you did

**RiderInBlack** · 16th September 2005, 20:24

Originally Posted by Warr

Another one for you... RIB ...
1. What did you eat and drink ?
2. Did you buy or carry it with you ?
Blackbird says he ate nuts and stuff ..Yum err

... so just wondered what you did

I get reflux easy while riding so no hard to digest foods for me on the long trips. I had 2L of "Carbo" premixed at 1/2 strength I carried with me (be using a camel pack this year) and the odd "Moro". Stayed away from the pies and coffee, and only had two Lift Pluses with the last gas fill on the way back to Turangi. Have a good meal Friday night and Sat morning. Light lunch Saturday. Then you just need the "Carbo" to stop your blood sugar dropping (remember you are "working" out there at a time your body would normally be asleep). Glad I am not a diebetic, as this ride would need a lot of fine tuning between you insulin shots and you body's carbohyrate requirements.

**Hitcher** · 16th September 2005, 20:45

We consumed that mixed nut scroggin stuff that New World sells, plus Milo bars, yoghurt drinks, and water. The occasional pie helps too. I tried to avoid coffee as much as possible, but that Rotorua cappuccino at 5:00am after a cold and wet night really hit the spot...

A group of four of us actually stopped for some brunch at New Plymouth on our way back from the Opunake checkpoint. That nearly cost us big time. It helped in other ways though.

We developed a bit of a "system" at fuel stops so that bladders got emptied, and bikes and riders refuelled and stretched in the most time-efficient manner.

**Warr** · 16th September 2005, 20:48

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

I get reflux easy while riding so no hard to digest foods for me on the long trips. I had 2L of "Carbo" premixed at 1/2 strength I carried with me (be using a camel pack this year) and the odd "Moro". Stayed away from the pies and coffee, and only had two Lift Pluses with the last gas fill on the way back to Turangi. Have a good meal Friday night and Sat morning. Light lunch Saturday. Then you just need the "Carbo" to stop your blood sugar dropping (remember you are "working" out there at a time your body would normally be asleep). Glad I am not a diebetic, as this ride would need a lot of fine tuning between you insulin shots and you body's carbohyrate requirements.

Thanks for the info
... I might visit a sports health shop. Not much into correct nutrition!

What about anyone else who has done it before..Care to tell us what you have planned for keeping the body functioning.

**RiderInBlack** · 16th September 2005, 20:52

Originally Posted by Warr

Thanks for the info
... I might visit a sports health shop.

Got it at the Supermarket

**Kickaha** · 16th September 2005, 20:54

Originally Posted by Warr

Thanks for the info
... I might visit a sports health shop. Not much into correct nutrition!

What about anyone else who has done it before..Care to tell us what you have planned for keeping the body functioning.

I think correct nutrition is vastly overrated,I've survived years without it

I did it only stopping for gas and eating pies and as little liquid as I could get away with, hardest time I found was between 1.00am to 5.00am as I was starting to get a bit sleepy, once the sun was coming up it wasn't a problem (well apart from the sore arse)

**Warr** · 16th September 2005, 21:11

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I think correct nutrition is vastly overrated,I've survived years without it

I did it only stopping for gas and eating pies and as little liquid as I could get away with, hardest time I found was between 1.00am to 5.00am as I was starting to get a bit sleepy, once the sun was coming up it wasn't a problem (well apart from the sore arse)

Yea the sore arse has me ..err concerned. The XJ has a wideish seat and I have riden with a sheepskin on it and thought it was no different. Would it be better to use ordinary foam or the higher density snowfoam stuff ?
And what thickness.

Like did an outing to Tauramanui today looking for my pack so was travelling at 5k's/hr for 30 k's ..Anyway it took 6 hours driving And seat and gloves need attention

**Blackbird** · 16th September 2005, 21:49

Warren

Get a couple of your mates and after work one night, go and do the Coromandel Loop from Hamilton in the dark. That will give you some inkling of how ready you are and will help you mentally. Don't wait for perfect weather either.

Kickaha survived on pies and other junk - so did we on the first ride we did but didn't feel too flash, especially after we O/D'd on "V". The next year, we had water and the odd sports drink (same effect as Doug is advocating). On the last 2 occasions, we stuck to water with some V towards the end. I found the scroggin mix with dried banana rings give good slow release energy, but just as importantly; the risk of you wanting a crap or a stomach upset in the least convenient place (sorry about the pun

) is vastly reduced!

**Ixion** · 16th September 2005, 22:08

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I think correct nutrition is vastly overrated,I've survived years without it

I did it only stopping for gas and eating pies and as little liquid as I could get away with, ..

Pies IS correct nutrition!

**mangell6** · 17th September 2005, 15:07

Now where did I put that entry form???? Ah here it is, must remember to attach a cheque when I post it . . . . . .

**Lee Rusty** · 19th September 2005, 21:49

Originally Posted by Warr

Yea the sore arse has me ..err concerned. The XJ has a wideish seat and I have riden with a sheepskin on it and thought it was no different. Would it be better to use ordinary foam or the higher density snowfoam stuff ?
And what thickness.

Like did an outing to Tauramanui today looking for my pack so was travelling at 5k's/hr for 30 k's ..Anyway it took 6 hours driving And seat and gloves need attention

resolution to the hard arse syndrom and dont like sheepskins - get hold of some large bubble wrap - thats the one with the bubbles about the size of a 20 cent piece. It is cheap light and throw away if it is stuffed afterwards.
Dont put it on the seat until your arse is going out of shape. Then you will get best benefit from it. It is also waterproof.